Shadows Rising: Nordrassil Misinformation

[Darana-drakkari]

@Liira-kirin-tor

A single wrong word or attitude would have been enough for Tyrande, she was one step before doing it which is why Yukah urged them to flee.
Baine for exmaple has stretched the lines quite thinly, but a forsaken? She would have obliterated all of the Horde in a blink of an eye there.

I like how they are scared now but when they have the opportunity to slaughter innocents they are all happy and eager to do it.

Cowards

[Hakuro-bleeding-hollow (Hakuro)]

@Liira-kirin-tor

Of coruse. They are like school bullies. As long as the big kid is around they keep quiet because they are scared, but wait till the big kid is gone.

Same for the playerbase funnyly. But that makes sense. A faction that is presented like that is chosen by people with the same mindset.

Just stop. Please…Just stop.

[Zega-black-dragonflight (Zega)]

@Liira-kirin-tor

She would have killed everyone.

Mhmmm yesss give me and my Hordies a reason for war, that is justified and practically impossible to backtrack on.

The one thing we all crave, a valid justification for future actions that even the alliance are forced to agree on.

@Hakuro-bleeding-hollow

Just stop. Please…Just stop.

You and I both know the only way she’ll stop is through combat to the death!

…Then again with shadowlands right around the corner, not even death will be enough to stop her, and the other angry elf souls.

[Gantrithor-myzrael]

@Darana-drakkari

I like how they are scared now

Who? The characters that met with Malf and Tyrande at Nordrassil? Thrall, Baine and Calia? Why would they be scared of Tyrande? Besides Baine, but he’s a limp noodle.

@Darana-drakkari

but when they have the opportunity to slaughter innocents

Erm… none of them were at Teldrassil.

@Darana-drakkari

Cowards

I see you’re slowly creeping your way from 1 to 2. That’s progress, maybe.

[Darana-drakkari]

@Gantrithor-myzrael

I see you’re slowly creeping your way from 1 to 2. That’s progress, maybe.

Okay it’s kinda creepy that you follow me everywhere with your misunderstood “Acceptance”.

With acceptance I mean that I accepted that blizz won’t give the night elves anything and that they will redeem sylvanas / glorify genocide, but that doesn’t mean I wont complain about it

[Gantrithor-myzrael]

@Darana-drakkari

you follow me

It’s an open forum and you aren’t exactly shy about your whining. It’s in practically every thread.

@Darana-drakkari

but that doesn’t mean I wont complain about it

Yeah, we know.

[Benedikt-emerald-dream]

Pretty sure it was Orcish catapults that torched the place and she didn’t even bother to turn up for the actual Battle of Darkshore.

And I still don’t even know why the Forsaken were there. When you’d think Stromgarde would be of considerable more interest seeing as;

A. There was a neutral undead population center there already

B. It’s another fortified city in the EK and the Forsaken are in need of one now, and

C. The Defilers are an undead army specialized specifically in fighting humans in Arathi. Seriously it’d be like having a Warfront in Alterac and just forgetting the Frostwolves.

As it stands my headcanon is maybe the Night Warrior shtick actually was effective in spooking the core Horde forces. So the less phased “The darkness is my home, too” Undead and the “All my pay is hazard pay” Bilgewater were deployed instead.

To be fair it was at least visually interesting. The Forsaken and Kaldorei have such asymmetrical power sets that bouncing them off eachother was fun. Even if I thini it was a huged missed opportunity to not do a giant abomination, massive ancient kaiju fight while we were there.

Shame the Gnomes and Tauren never got to dance. The whole tech V nature, brain V brawn angle would’ve been fun to see.

[Khairan-quelthalas (Khairan)]

tyrande is angry at undeads in particular, she even insults calia even though she did nothing wrong in ICC

[Liira-kirin-tor]

@Benedikt-emerald-dream

And I still don’t even know why the Forsaken were there. When you’d think Stromgarde would be of considerable more interest seeing as;

This is actually what I was wondering aswell.
But that is what happened. The crimes in Darkshore were ontop of the ones in Teldrassil.

@Benedikt-emerald-dream

As it stands my headcanon is maybe the Night Warrior shtick actually was effective in spooking the core Horde forces. So the less phased “ The darkness is my home, too ” Undead and the “ All my pay is hazard pay ” Bilgewater were deployed instead.

To be honest… the whole Night Warrior storyline doesn’t make much sense at all.
The Terrors of Darkshore Cinematic showed perfectly well why the Horde should fear the NEs within their forests.

The Night Warrior was … more or less a gimick. Blizzard can’t write subtile things it seems. They were completely unable to write an dportrait NEs as devestating and terrifying without pulling another over the top power out.

We are at a point where Malfurion was no longer enough to show power.
So they had to come up with something that is even beyond him but we all know that Blizzard is also unable to show off this power or to use it properly.
So we get a Vindicaar event again.

It is frustrating.

edit:
And lol butthurt horde players…

[Zega-black-dragonflight (Zega)]

@Gantrithor-myzrael

Who? The characters that met with Malf and Tyrande at Nordrassil? Thrall, Baine and Calia? Why would they be scared of Tyrande? Besides Baine, but he’s a limp noodle.

Pretty easy to be scared when you’re a powerless hack and you realize only the alliance are allowed to have powerful characters.

[Darana-drakkari]

@Zega-black-dragonflight

Pretty easy to be scared when you’re a powerless hack and you realize only the alliance are allowed to have powerful characters.

Friendly reminder that Nathanos was still stronger than Tyrande in Tyrande’s revenge patch.

Or that Sylvanas is basically stronger than the entire Warcraft universe combined.

[Morghel-daggerspine]

There would most likely have been a smoking crater where said Forsaken stood. And Thrall would be legging it back to Durotar.

[Benedikt-emerald-dream]

What crimes in Darkshore? Making Unnelves? Because I thought Tyrande wanted Sira to come back. Maiev definitely did. And Sira having the disposition of an incontinent honey badger is kind of her own problem.

I’m reading about her standing in Nazmir, just furious at the audacity of all this life around her, and I’m picturing Clayton Backston somewhere in Orgrimmar nuturing flowers after his beloved garden was lost in the Undercity. But elves do tend to be much more dramatic about undeath. To be fair it probably does sound like a worse deal when you already had a millenias long lifespan.

Other than that there’s some mention of Blight. But when your enemy can weaponize every last blade of grass it’s use seems pretty reasonable tbh.

[Zega-black-dragonflight (Zega)]

@Darana-drakkari

Friendly reminder that Nathanos was still stronger than Tyrande in Tyrande’s revenge patch.

Or that Sylvanas is basically stronger than the entire Warcraft universe combined.

Glorious isn’t it?

@Morghel-daggerspine

There would most likely have been a smoking crater where said Forsaken stood. And Thrall would be legging it back to Durotar.

Honestly if the forsaken died in a yamcha death pose i’d laugh, and let tyrande off with a warning.

[Darana-drakkari]

@Zega-black-dragonflight

Glorious isn’t it?

For you yea, for everyone else not because an undead archer shouldn’t be so strong just because he’s a self insert.

But it shows that your statement was WRONG since Horde has even stronger characters, and Tyrande is easily the strongest Alliance character right now and she’s weaker than 1 undead archer

[Zega-black-dragonflight (Zega)]

But he’s not Horde and it seem pretty moot to say “See Horde have strong characters” if said character was buffed in the same xpac that he leaves the faction.

If anything it just seems like blizzard is buffing a character so they can use them in future conflict for the player later.

all like “Guys he held off Night Warrior Tyrande so you know he has to be a credible threat!”

[Benedikt-emerald-dream]

I mean Jania’s basically a one woman army. Until I’m shown, not told, otherwise she seems the most dangerous adversary the Horde has on the Alliance. She’s final raid boss tier powerful.

[Darana-drakkari]

@Zega-black-dragonflight

But he’s not Horde and it seem pretty moot to say “See Horde have strong characters” if said character was buffed in the same xpac that he leaves the faction.

He was still Horde at the time. Malfurion for example is also weak when he has to fight the Horde, and Tyrande is incredibly weak.

I don’t know why you complain about the Alliance having strong characters when they are immediately on undead archer level once they fight the Horde.

@Benedikt-emerald-dream

I mean Jania’s basically a one woman army. Until I’m shown, not told, otherwise she seems the most dangerous adversary the Horde has on the Alliance. She’s final raid boss tier powerful

Well from what we’ve heard (not actually seen because blizz) about SL so far, Tyrande seems stronger. Which is weird because in 8.1 Jaina was way way stronger, but there’s inconsistent writing for you

[Gantrithor-myzrael]

@Darana-drakkari

He was still Horde at the time.

But he’s not Horde now. So your point about Horde having stronger characters, like much of your assumptions and head canon, is wrong.

[Morghel-daggerspine]

Well the problem wasn’t raising the elves. It was said elves immedietly turning on their former brothers and sisters, for reason we still don’t know. Naturally that would make the Night elves hate the Forsaken with every fiber of their being.