I’m not playing my spriest unless void form is eradicated or modified. It’s too bad. WotLK - WoD spriests were a lot of fun.
PS - I’d consider coming back with void form maybe if they brought back the old shadowform, even if it was just glyphed. Maybe.
What, you don’t like purplecloudform?
Shadow main here too, I actually enjoy the Insanity/Voidform build, it’s unique to shadow priests and makes it feel different from other forms, i feel they should make things like Auscpicious spirits, SW:D and void torrent base-line, it would add back a lot of good feeling to the class
Are you really a shadow main if you’re asking for void torrent baseline and not stuff like lingering insanity? Nobody even uses void torrent.
They need to remove voidform already. The devs that introduced the concept to the class don’t even work on this game anymore. Let’s all move on from our lives, Legion is over, N’zoth is dead, no more old god bs tyvm.
By warlocks, you mean affliction right? Another spec that’s garbage atm? And telling people to reroll a class when they don’t like that their spec was taken away from them is not constructive.
I’m in agreement with a lot of players that certain spells that modify attributes shouldn’t be on the GCD. Shadow Priests IMO just feel clunky and awkward and it looks to be even worse in Shadowlands.
Ever since cascade was removed, priest has been hot garbage.
I’m sorry Sir but this is WoW. WoW is not fun, it is serous business.
(giggles and gives Tybrew a cookie)
Seems about right.
Delete Voidform please. Blizzard has proven that they’ll NEVER be able to make it balanced.
I mean they could make another priest spec, call it void, put voidform mechanics into void spec and revert shadow, but that’s too much to handle for an indie company like Blizzard.
Nobody uses Void torrent because of the damage, not because it’s inherently bad, if the torrent itself did 1million damage then you bet it’d be taken, Lingering insanity i feel somewhat defeats the purpose of being in voidform and not being in voidform and kinda melds them together, i wish voidform was more volatile, like way stronger per stack. like 2-3% haste per stack but much harder to maintain stacks, and once you lost it it was a hard-stop on the haste, and you had to build back into void form again, Void torrent thus would have amazing effects because it prolongs and stacks your voidform. making High stack play somewhat difficult to obtain. and leave shadow priests reaching for that “high” of void form stacks
If we’re talking whats balanced RN and whats pulling numbers, sure AS, Lingering Insanity, Legacy of the void. yeah. cool. i can run sims too
im talking theme of the class, the balancing agents being around the mechanics. we don’t need lingering instanity to be shadow priests, it’s just the current fotm talent
Saw some videos talking about the current state of ranged dps … the commentary about Shadow Priests was pretty bad. It boiled down to “nothing new, nothing good, none of the needed changes.”
Well, you’ll discover that most disagree about the fun factor. Sometimes a spec can perform well … but playing the spec is about as much fun as getting an enema.
Arms is that way now. Sure, the spec may be competent, but its just not fun to play. Ergo, I had to switch to Fury. Because Fury is actually fun.
And if a spec isn’t fun, it doesn’t matter the numbers it puts out. Because if the class is not fun, it WILL drain your enjoyment of playing the spec.
Though I suppose people who are FOTM only look at numbers, and their definition of fun is High Numbers. Well, not everyone thinks like that.
So… instead of addressing the flaws of the form, you simply want to make the form STRONGER and HARDER to benefit from? That won’t improve things, it’ll only make people dislike the spec even more.
The problem is the Core gameplay of Shadow just is not fun or engaging unless all you’re doing is chasing numbers.
Because its a rush to get into voidform. Hope that you won’t be CC, interrupted, or forced to move during your burst window. Burn abilities as fast as possible while voidform is active. And then repeat the process again and again and again.
Get over it and play a healer like you are supposed to. You rolled a class with 2 healing specs. Lol
You know, one could use the same statement for Prot Warriors.
“you rolled a class with two dps specs, get over it.”
That’s about how much sense your statement makes.
2 copper says they won;t do anything about it even after launch 
Dutchman’s bet. The last time they listened to serious feed back on SHadow was … I think it was Mists.
They put out a Mastery that was lackluster, people spoke up, they listened and retooled the entire mastery during Beta.
The problem is that they can’t seem to decide on a theme for Shadow Priest.
The idea of a Priest who uses the Divine to wreck his enemies is not a far fetched one. And yet, in spite of that, Blizzard thought “hey, the Void is a big thing, maybe if we make them all about the void we’ll find an image that works!”
OVer the years, Shadow has always been a weird spec. Early on it felt like a Warlock in terms of being dot heavy, and then started to take on its own role of its spells being thematically more about messing with the mind. But they didn’t like that, and had to muck thinks up. And each change left them more unhappy.
Until they decided “Add Void to it, they’ll fix things!”
And it fixed nothing.
I believe this happened for a lot of specs, which is a major source of all of the class design backlash in BFA. Classes felt better once we had things “added back” with azerite traits, and even essences, but those will be gone once SL drops, and we will be back to square one. In my mind, this is one of the strongest arguments against borrowed power systems. Without significant changes to the core of the class, the class feels gutted.
I personally am not excited about the changes happening to my spec. I was hoping for other changes, certain abilities going back to being baseline. What we have so far is underwhelming, to say the least.
am I the only one that likes functionally how voidform lets shadow priest play out? with your rotation becoming a lot more fast paced the higher you go and being able to extend dots in an AoE with void bolt.
I understand some of the complaints about its balance, just speaking from a playstyle PoV.
at least for me in PvE I’d take an improved upon voidform playstyle any day over going back to mind blasting every 6-8 seconds and pressing mind flay 3-4 times in between until it’s time to reapply my dots again.
I do miss the shadow orbs, but I would rather have them back in some form as an addition to voidform rather than scrubbing the entire insanity + voidform system and going back to it.
that being said, in PvP voidform is kind of miserable because it’s ridiculous how easy shadow gets punished and loses all it’s damage because of the ramp-up, and I much miss the cata playstyle of just mind blasting people for 1/3 of their health 