So I heard that the raid weapons in Shadowlands will differ by covenant - is this correct?
If so, then it seems like this influences players to hoard more of the gear that drops so that they can get each of the transmog skins for each covenant by the end of the expansion?
Seems odd for them to be putting in a system that influences selfish behavior in a game that’s meant to be more community focused no?
Are you talking about this?
Yeah. I guess I’m not sure if unlocking one appearance unlocks the corresponding appearance for the other covenants when you switch - or if you have to use a token for each covenant.
See? These appearance should outweigh those Covenant abilities.
I bet once you unlock a weapon appearance, you can only use it if you are currently a member of that Covenant.
Say you get a nice sword from Venthyr. I bet if you switch to Bastion, you can no longer use that Venthyr sword appearance.
If Blizzard are smart they will do what they did with the Warfront armour sets where if you unlocked a piece on the Alliance side it added to the set on the Horde side. HOWEVER, we know Blizzard likes to make things as annoying as possible so I reckon you will have to get each appearance individually.
Right, but do you then have access tot he Bastion appearance? Or do you have to get and keep a weapon token from someone else to unlock the appearance without any actual upgrade to your power?
I thought you said “if they were smart they’d do what Walmart did”. Just let us go into the superstore and figure it out ourselves. We’re the customers.
Instead, we are being guided through a haunted house with this expansion, which is fine… but a lot of people seem to be resisting.
Maybe the masses will be satisfied once it finally releases.
Lol
I have no idea.
One thing’s for sure, there’s a storm coming. A drama storm.
However, drama can make for great entertainment. This is Blizzard ENTERTAINMENT after all. It’d be worse if the expansion was boring with no drama. Then again, I wish the drama was just IN THE STORY and not with the gameplay mechanics.
The relationship between Blizzard and its customers is indeed a relationship. So, there is some give and pull both ways. The relationship seems healthy, or disfunctional, depending on how you look at it.
Yeah that’s the crux of my question.
There’s already a lot of loot hoarding for off-specs, DE’ing, etc. Adding in a factor to hoard the same loot x4 for xmog seems really odd.
Oh YEAAAAHHH 
How I deal is reducing my desire for higher end rewards. I just try to be satisfied with the casual content.
I see how crazy all the raiders get over numbers and things. I don’t wanna live my life like that. I want to enjoy my life.
However, I do plan to try some endgame content in SL, even if it’s just the LFR stuff.
This doesn’t even really impact high end content. It hits all players, at all content levels, since players are now influenced to keep 4 times the loot for these slots that have covenant specific transmog.
Wow, this is incredibly dumb. All the effort to put together a full set of armor from the raid and then… you have to switch covenants to Venthyr to get a weapon that actually matches your gear? 
So far I have only seen 2 range hunter weapons Night Fae : Bow and Necro: Gun
Would be nice if all of them had something for every class/spec so in the future they could be possible for transmog collections.
At least the Necro weapons look halfway decent. I feel sorry for the people that want to use the raid set and get a night fae weapon lol.
Don’t they already do this anyways?
Also, the weapon tokens for classes other than your own won’t drop for you unless I’m mistaken.
They did - but this just seems to add one more reason on top of all the others.
As for the token drops, I normally wouldn’t need anything once I get my first token. But if I’m wanting to get all the appearances, when I get a second, third, and fourth token to drop, even though they aren’t upgrades in anyway, I would keep them instead of trading them to another player.
It’s going to degrade a sense of community, especially when the other players inspect me and see that I already have the weapon and I’m just keeping it for transmog.
Again. Wouldn’t people still do this anyways? Let’s say I have Devastation’s Hour, but in a Maut run I get the Axe. Rather than trade it to someone who needs it, I keep it because I want a N’zoth Axe.
This is no different. These tokens are better for the game.
I’m not worried about the tokens themselves. I’m concerned with how the tokens unlock appearances.
In your example - for those 2 weapons, I would only ever need to keep 2 weapon tokens to get the sword and the axe. But in Shadowlands I would need to keep 8 tokens - 4 for each of the weapons instead of just 1 for each.
So now I’ll just expand my example. Now I want the one-handed sword, the spear, the one-handed axe, the mace, the two-handed sword, and the two-handed axe from Ny’alotha.
I’m now hoarding them for the appearances.