Shadowlands Pathfinder needs one major change

[Lyánna-uldum (Lyánna)]

No, reputations won’t be account-wide (other than for meta achievement purposes like now), which had been widely requested.

The entire point of Pathfinder is that it’s account-wide.

Otherwise please link the source of your claim.

[Marla-westfall]

Read what the blue post said.

Flying Update in Shadowlands

With the major changes coming to leveling characters from 10-50 in Shadowlands, we want to make sure that there is a navigational parity among all of the different expansions you can choose while questing. In the next version of the Shadowlands Alpha that will appear this week, testers are going to see an intentional change coming to Shadowlands for a couple of older Pathfinder achievements. Specifically, the flight training rewards from Draenor Pathfinder and Broken Isles Pathfinder, Part Two …

I have no idea what relation your first sentence has to what I said though.

[Lyánna-uldum (Lyánna)]

We both misunderstood each other, thankfully.

I thought you meant Shadowlands Pathfinder wouldn’t be account-wide, which is why I said what I said. Apologies. I need sleep.

The blue post says you will only need Expert Flying at level 30 to fly in Draenor and Broken Isles, per toon, instead of Draenor Pathfinder and Legion Pathfinder. If you already have the achievements, that doesn’t get taken away. And if you want the perks of Pathfinder, (mount, riding speed), you can still do them if you want.

@Kaivax

Specifically, the flight training rewards from Draenor Pathfinder and Broken Isles Pathfinder, Part Two will no longer be required for flying in Draenor or Broken Isles content. These will now be granted at level 30 with expert flying.

The achievements will remain in place as before, and Draenor Pathfinder will still be the way to earn the Soaring Skyterror mount, while Broken Isles Pathfinder, Part One will continue to reward increased mount speed in the Broken Isles.

When I said any toon at level 60 on an account that has unlocked all three Pathfinder achievements, can fly in current Pathfinder zones, (levels 90-120), I wasn’t referring to Shadowlands, because it will obviously change due to the level squish.

The incentive for doing Pathfinder is the account-wide unlock. Taking that away in Shadowlands would likely cause players to bench their alts, unsubscribe in between patches and play a different game, rather than have to re-earn Pathfinder on every alt they have

[Marla-westfall]

@Lyánna-uldum

And if you want the perks of Pathfinder, (mount, riding speed), you can still do them if you want.

Actually you won’t be able to.

Right now any character I level up doing quests in Draenor can fly while doing the quest. Next expansion any character I level up solely doing quests in Draenor won’t be able to fly for most of those quests.

@Lyánna-uldum

The incentive for doing Pathfinder is the account-wide unlock. Taking that away in Shadowlands would likely cause players to bench their alts, unsubscribe in between patches and play a different game, rather than have to re-earn Pathfinder on every alt they have

There is no incentive to do pathfinder in shadowlands. By the time I get it my main alts are all leveled up. If I get flying for free by waiting another year, then I unsub and wait until next expansion to level up the rest.

[Glaivedancer-area-52]

Meh, reputation doesn’t bother most people. If you play the game normally passively you’ll be exalted with all reps over a small amount of time. Happened to me in Legion and Battle for Azeroth. DIdn’t even try to work on reps, got maxed out just by playing the game.

Imagine that.

[Valathar-thrall (Valathar)]

Remove the time gate and reps then we have a deal.

[anon61321586]

@Kugáluga-malganis

Or, you can pay 5-10k gold to learn flying in Shadowlands and not tie it in as useless content… BAM!

It’s not useless content if it tells the story of the zone and gets you flying. Just remove the rep grind and time gating.

Meanwhile, 5-10k gold per character can be spent elsewhere. Even the cost of riding abilities is unnecessary. They should just be unlocked automatically per character once you reach the appropriate level at no extra cost.

[Pinar-stormrage (Pinar)]

getting rep on your main is a walk in the park. If thats too much for you tough.

[Valathar-thrall (Valathar)]

You’re right it’s not difficult at all. It’s just tedious and not fun in it’s current implementation.

[Chïntzy-aerie-peak]

The only thing that needs to change is the time gate…

@Kaivax

The achievements will remain in place as before, and Draenor Pathfinder will still be the way to earn the Soaring Skyterror mount, while Broken Isles Pathfinder, Part One will continue to reward increased mount speed in the Broken Isles.

The problem with this is that I didn’t do all that grinding for just a mount and faster flying…

Either remove all/past/future PF or leave them how they are.