Shadowlands is the first expansion I'm not hyped about

No Classic style talent points, No new class, no 4th specs, no big game changing features.

Covenants are just factions with garrison abilities. It’s embarrassing that Blizzard is trying to pass them off as a feature on their own.

The leveling revamp is disappointing and lazy, I was expecting a mini-Cataclysm revamp of some old world zones, I thought this was the direction they were going with the Warfronts.

Coming off of BFA, I needed something good to reassure me that Blizzard was still Blizzard and they still cared about WoW. They don’t, and Shadowlands proves it.

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Money, they care about money!

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ie, everything from WoD forward

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This is so true.

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Sorry to hear.

I’m super hyped though! Can’t wait to see Covenants!

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I really wanted a new class… dark ranger or nercromancer. Idk, something.
Also highly annoying that they didnt mention anything about new pvp stuff.

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Ive had people tell me this game isnt for me and that I dont like to grind that is part of this game.
Someone then needs to explain why I am current grinding out the MOP farm and tiller rep on TWO characters right now after having done it multiple times already IF its me and not the content itself.

Its because the game stopped being so fun/interesting/compelling right about the time I left Pandaria and entered Draenor.
I’ll leave it up to others to decide what the exact issues were.

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This was never going to be a thing, nor should it.

We need a revamped talent system, but not the old style one.

We have enough of those already that they can’t balance.

I could see a couple of classes having them, but again, they can’t even balance what they have now.

I’m not sure what this means.

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It is still way to early, with way to little data, to be making up your mind on SL already.

But it is Sunday, so theres that.

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I would like to see a shaman tank soon…but good point. Some specs are absolute trash.

They are adding a talent point system through Covenents, just like they did with Artifact weapons in legion. They clearly know that people want them, but they keep adding them in temporary systems that go away at the end of the expansion.

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Yup. That’s definitely one I could see them doing.

There is enough data to show me that this is the smallest, worst expansion yet.

Besides everything I listed, there are only 4 leveling zones, and they aren’t even making separate Alliance/Horde quests.

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And that’s absolutely nothing like what your initial statement was about.

I agree that those Covenant abilities should have been added to to our talent system instead of being yet another throwaway system.

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I don’t agree with all the points but I do agree Shadowlands is the first expansion in 15 years that I’m only meh about.

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You’re crying about pathfinder… again.

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Cata only had 3, and legion only 4, leveling zones with end game zones opening later.

That’s still more than BfA. Each faction only has three leveling zones here. And Legion had four level ones and a fifth endgame zone. Shadowlands is the same.

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Cata had five leveling zones. You started Twilight Highlands at 84. Cata also revamped literally every Vanilla zone.

Legion had an incredible amount of content with the order halls.

EDIT- And BFA has six zones, dunno what you are on about Asana.

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I could not agree with you more, but people tend to love turning a blind eye when they know bad design is starring them in the face.