Shadowlands Has Two Main Problems From All the Gripes I can see On the Forums

The first main problem.

Loot scarcity. It causes players to reach a plateau quickly. Then where each upgrade feels meaningful, it doesnt make up for the many, many times up till that point, where nothing dropped, and the player experienced frustration. Valor will help, but the damage has been done people stopped playing. This week I went 10/10 Normal and 7/10 Heroic Nathria. Zero drops for myself. I did get traded a ring, which was nice. But 17 boss kills. Zero Drops. Felt terrible.

Valor will help with some of this. But content like covenant activities and Torghast, just dont bring enough to the table for your character to Feel like they are progressing.

The Second Main Problem
Class imbalance. Now all through Alpha and Beta people said that there was no way to balance the covenant abilities, soulbinds and classes. SL launched and yes, people largely played which covenant had the best performing ability for their preferred spec. They hindered their offspecs in some cases and they also hindered the player experience. Players felt pushed into the covenant which performed best, rather than the one they wanted to play. And some covenant abilities are just dull. Mind games for example, is just a press this on CD. It has no interaction with anything. But it is one of the better abilities for Priests.

On top of this, there is Massive class disparity. I struggle to remember a time where classes were this imbalanced. And not just the classes. The specs in some cases. There are many situations where you can play your class/spec EXTREMELY well. But if you changed spec and covenant to the top performing, you can play mediocre compared to your preference, and out perform your preference significantly.

By and large, people want to play WoW how they want to play it. They want to spec they like, and not feel like they made a bad decision. They want to tmog their gear, and be part of a faction, they identify with. They want to do the content they enjoy and feel like they are improving their character. That their character is getting a little stronger each time, by the player doing what the player enjoys.

Shadowlands, in an effort to give the players more identity and meaningful choices, gave players the opposite instead.

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On the contrary, I know what real class misbalance looks like. This actually looks fairly balanced compared to previous expansions.

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On the contrary you are a Palidan

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And you’re a monk.

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those two things don’t even make my list of top 20 things i hate about Shadowlands.

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Seeing the dps and healer hps shift from boss to boss in the aggregated Castle Nathria logs, it’s looks relatively balanced. They are adjusting stuff on the fly. Seems to be more frequent nerfs and buffs like they have too much time on their hands. lol

You should NOT,
base anything on what you SEE,
or even READ,
on the FORUM…

It’s full of TROLL,
And people making fun of THEM…

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Honestly, the only thing I see are the top 4 DPS getting 5-10% baseline damage nerfs, and Holy Paladins getting a nerf of some kind.

If people think this represents “the greatest class disparity in WoW” boy do they have something new coming.

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Except to change up something like Azerite powers it costed what a few thousand gold?

Whereas swapping Covenants takes 2 weeks.

2 weeks. Wth is that.

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That’s not class misbalance, that’s a covenant issue.

You are not supposed to swap…

That’s tied to our class power that can have a significant impact on our class performance.

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Oh look, it’s me!

So you chose the wrong covenant, how is that misbalance?

Cause whoever picks the better one is going to have an advantage that you don’t have.

You are stuck with your bad choice unless you’re willing to take a gut punch to catch up.

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At least for DPS warriors, the covenant issue I see is that Fury feels awful without Condemn, and it’s very potent in the rotation and progression. Venthyr is the only covenant for us that isn’t just a GCD cooldown that stuffs us with rage. Protection has a lot more freedom there.

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You’re still not bringing up class misbalance, any class can choose the wrong covenant.

That a “wrong” Covenant exists in the first place is the problem.

Tying unique abilities to each of our specs per class and spec creating 140 class combinations to balance is utter madness.

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Well when you find out how to make all the covenants perfectly balanced let me know.

Ok. Here’s my fix.

You can change Covenants on the fly.

No 2 week wait with a weekly CD.

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