There has never been a time this bad where Ret has been this absurdly strong.
Ret today makes Wrath Ret paladins blush.
Also, Cata and MoP had 45 minute arena games until they adding dampening. Good luck killing a Resto Druid in TBC Classic too.
I’m starting to agree with you. I find it painstaking to play this expansion.
Nothing against anyone that loves it.
It’s prob a me problem.
I mess around a little on my main and then getting on an alt. I just can’t.
How come we can’t skip the darn beginning maw quest line.
I really despise doing that to get an alt started.
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That’s one of the big problems. To even access everything Shadowlands has to offer you have to play 4 separate characters, if you’re a new player level to 50 in BfA and then in Shadowlands which are the two worst leveling experiences in the game, to 60, pick each of the 4 covenants, farm tens of thousands of anima on each character doing the laziest world quests they’ve ever implemented in the game, and spends days upgrading your sanctum. It’s horrendous. I can barely stand to do it on 1 character, and I’m currently doing it on 3.
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Whelp dunno what to tell you, it took me way longer to complete. Sounds like you and I are not the same type of player as I was subbed for the full 2 years and had stuff to do.
Ironically it was the last expansion I was subbed to the whole time.
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World quests are often Anima collection only. 35-140 at most, area typically two stage or fill the bar. Nothing fast or rewarding.
All of the blue “callings” reward only junk for gold. Nothing useful. The epic one will usually only give a conduit. Which depending on it can be situational on its use.
The maw. Yes, because that’s popular among the vast majority of players. No. It’s a terrible and not fun place in the least. There are insane amounts of elite monsters there and with casual 197-200 gear nearly impossible to take down. Not very fun.
There’s no gear progression. There’s the covenant gear that’s given out during the short campaign, and that’s about it. WQ progression is hit or miss at best, and usually lower than the gear you are already wearing.
The upgrades aren’t nearly as fun as they could be. Everything costs a minimum of 5k Anima which is at the very least 5 weeks of collection (if you only do the 1000 a week quest). Then there are things like the Queens observatory, that require seeds to be useful and those are pretty stupidly rare. More plots are empty than filled. Couple that with each seed takes 3 days, and I ask, where’s that fun?
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I was subbed the entire time too and I had 36 alts, 24 of them making me millions of gold. WoD was the first expac where I spent most of my time doing old content.
I do like chromie time and the ability to choose where you level. Sadly I already have like every class and don’t really want to level another when it’s such a huge time commitment at max level with covs.
Well. For the amount of time I can play it’s a large commitment.
And covs. Yes you can catch up on those renown levels but not being able to use the cov stuff on alts kind of annoys me. Even if you switch covs you can’t keep it.
lets not forget venthyr mirror system is 10k anima for a portal to oribos or enjoy daily running all around the map searching for 3 broken mirrors.
There’s so many bad systems currently and it blows my mind they said “we have currently nothing to share regarding systems in shadowlands” 
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Lol anima. When I go to deposit anima and after doing my callings.
If I can’t see the amount I have increase I kind of give up caring. It’s a drop in the ocean lol.
No, it’s only punishing if you aren’t up to par.
Unless you keep up with renown.
Gives high level conduits, thousands of gold, and gear higher then normal raid ilvl.
Maw not being suitable for casuals means no zones are.
Torghast has layer ones for a reason.
Really? So instead of being spoonfed raid quality gear, you’d rather bank on the dozens of rolls for TF?
They give access to pets, mounts, guardians, another rep faction with its own weeklies, new rares and treasures, aswell as zone wide buffs.
Stop trying to pretend these things don’t exist.
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“Shadowlands has nothing fun to do”
Lol… someone picked “what sims best” and didn’t go Necrolord!
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I really hate that you are pretty much forced to pick specific convenants if you want to do high level content. I so wanted to go Necrolord on my hunter.
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You cherry picked my response, making it clear that you have no interest in the accuracy of what I said about the right powers vs the end boss.
So that being the case, all you clearly want to do is argue. Which I’m not doing.
Thus will not be responding to you again.
Be well.
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And some of this stuff I can see how blizz is trying to put it in there for casuals.
Call me ungrateful but I feel it has missed the mark.
These systems are a way for all of us to eventually get something. Covenants should have never had power upgrades to them. Should just be cosmetic and also give us the ability to use what we have earned with them once we switch.
Sometimes we as a community ask for things and once we get it. We complain.
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what? at 190+ the gear you see from wq’s is like top 184-186 I think even so by that time it’s worthless the renown item level upgrades are in the wrong speed of the content at least currently… I havent done a single wq for gear since week 1 of shadowlands not even on alts… and they are all done with the covenant campaign except 3 out of the 12 classes.
in short the renown upgrade is poorly thought… it shouldnt take that long to get ilvl 184 by the time you get that you’re already 190+ or 200+… it’s bfa system all over.
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I don’t see that happening. All I see from notes about the next patch are MORE Renouns levels and MORE Soul Ash grinding in the everlasting nad stomp that is Torghast.
In short they just moved the goalpost ahead a few dozen feet and force us to suffer through the same old nasty, unfulfilling ordeals.
I really do want to keep playing this game, but I feel nothing but unpleasantness from it.
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What you are experiencing is normal and a lot I mean a lot of people feel the same way.
For me as a casual player that plays a lot but doesn’t get too deep into anything I sometimes get discouraged by the vertical progression system.
I jump on GW2 and I really like the horizontal system but that isn’t perfect either. As a casual I do find more to do in that game.
Shadowlands is the first time I’ve felt that my gear level has sort of put the breaks on my fun.
Then I get to the point of do I even like mmos anymore?
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With wow. It’s almost as if. Yes every expansion puts you on a treadmill.
BFA and Shadowlands is the first time I’ve really seen and felt the treadmill.
The fun I’m having isn’t enough to overcome that feeling of “I’m just a robot going through the motions in this endless system”.
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The gear wouldn’t be so bad even at normal Dungeon (158), if the monsters didn’t scale and the zones weren’t packed with elites that aggro all the time.
You’d think of they wanted to do that, then the gear non raiding gives could handle that.
I mean take bastion for example. There are at least 3 zones where WQS pop up and they are surrounded by elites. I’m not sure where the fun is in that.
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