Why not?
It’s part of our class identity.
Or are you saying you want a pure melee rotation without Being forced to cast spells?
“ i PiCkEd FeRaL bEcAuSe I wAnT tO dO FeRaL tHiNgS, nOt SpAm ReGrOwTh”
If it’s part of the class identity … than it should be base, not a talent.
However, at the moment what has been done just seems lazy and uninspiring. HotW if not baseline, should not be in the cc row. And I still don’t think it should be tied to the affinity you choose, but rather the form you choose to be in. HotW would further compliment your affinity, if you choose to use it in that form.
Enjoy spamming your regrowths.
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You realize you’re saying this to an avid anti BT feral, Right?
Your problem is that you’re calling it a cc row and not a utility row. Hotw greatly increases the utility that we already have.
With typhoon being placed into the default affinity chosen by pve ferals, It makes perfect sense to see its spot replaced with more utility options.
Just gonna mention - maybe the title of the group doesn’t say LF1M soothe, but that doesn’t mean druids aren’t taken because of it. Before I played my druid I would sit in Q for 30 mins before not bringing a soothe to a dungeon like KR because if you don’t have one your tank just gets one tapped by the champion
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I’m surprised I haven’t seen anyone just call them out on their blatant lie. By them I mean blizz.
They promised reworks for spriest enhance and feral for 8.1. Feral received primal wrath. I posted that ability in a comment during legion.
Get rid of BT move savage roar to that row. Replace savage roar with my new abilty Druids of the Grove I posted a few months back. Call in 1 of each spec druid ally to aid you in combat for 10-20 seconds. They have druid npcs from the assaults. Call in 1 gaurdian 1 resto and 1 balance druid to aid. This talent provides dps like the others and utility. Would make you chose between all talents in the row as long as they compete dps wise, and with savage roar moving to the last row its a dps option and it makes you choose the last row of talents which are now competitive. I feared blizz saw this talent already and changed it to some covenant and it looks like they did. But it should go to feral AND ONLY FERAL.
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Only issue here is that resto druids provide soothe, so there was never a need to bring a feral for it. If for whatever reason it did come down a dps bringing soothe, a balance druid would be chosen first.
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Yep you’re absolutely right you won’t get any pushback from me on that 
Obviously or you would know not to spam regrowth.
Being that I choose balance affinity and will likely to do so in the future, I’m missing where the additional utility is coming from with HotW.
This seems more like throughput.
Agree… but just filling the spot with some old hat for the sake of needing a replacement just seems, meh. Now is a chance for dev to get inventive.
Once again … nothing against HotW, it should just be baseline.
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What?
Oh, you’re one of those people who take everything literally and need to have it broken down step by step?
Hold on, I’ll go get my crayons…
At first, I was going to comment on this. But then I realized that this wasn’t a question. It’s a statement. So, yes. You’ve hit the nail on the head.
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right … and you’re one of those people that just insults everyone because they seem to know it all and have all the answers.
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Oh im sorry, Did you have a point to that comment then?.. Or were you just being a smart-aleck?
I think we’re done here.
this is my point… and yes we are.
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So… Problem?
i thought u said you were done, and then he agreed, and now ur starting it again? Whats wrong with you?
Bored at work I guess?
What’s new with you?
Meh. These are very subjective statements. If feral gameplay, regardless of talents, was so simple and easy to play, we would see a lot more of them.
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It takes more than a class being simple for people to play it. The class has to actually be good as well, or atleast have it’s own unique niche. Feral has lacked the latter for a while now.
Edit: So this isn’t directed at you, but heres some more things I think need to be looked at for Feral:
Druids used to be the kings of mobility with shapeshifting…yea not anymore. I see warriors hopping around like friggin bullfrogs and DH’s flying across the screen like Batman.
Shapeshifting added to the GCD…Berserk added to the GCD…Frenzied Regeneration…etc.
Also, the level 30 talent row is pretty boring. We have a faster but shorter duration Sprint which replaces our…sprint. Renewal, a quick heal which is useless for most content but might be useful I guess if you are pushing really hard content, and Wild Charge. I mean you have classes like warrior that have their charge baseline; Monks have roll; DH’s have Fel Rush…etc.
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Im genuinely disappointed in the feedback given on the forums and blizzards lack of reaction to anything other than their horrible idea for bloodtalons. Im genuinely sad about the fact that if it continues like this… feral wont even be playable. Needs something unique or why would anyone ever bring us? No reason… literally every other melee has more to contribute atm. Leader of the pack… im calling for it now. Make it only affect a party or be a raid wide buff, idk… but everyone else has buffs they can bring… why cant we have one again?
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I think blizzard considers feral part of the druid package…class balance, doesnt matter if 2 specs are unplayable if 1-2 specs are good.
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The players do it too. I’ve had people in my own guild who, after I tell them my concerns, ask, “well why don’t you swap to Balance then?” Because I don’t want to play Balance. Why doesn’t a Rogue swap to a Mage? Because an energy-focused melee and a faster are completely different playstyles and I want to play the one I enjoy. Balance and Resto being good does literally nothing to help me.
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