Shadowlands endgame is grindy trash

A thousand times more difficult. With less QUALITY REWARDS than even 10 years ago.

Outside of new new dungeons and new character creation, and new areas (great welcome additions), this expansion is an epic fail.

BFA, WOD, etc, endgame were a 1000 times more fun and rewarding on their worst patch.

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I take it you didnt play WOD or BFA then if you think they were better than this

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nice bait.

Shadowlands and BFA are practically the same game. People are currently in the novelty stage of the game and can’t see what’s right in front of there eyes.

The level squish makes things seem different, and it’s a nice trick to make people think they’re playing a different game, but that will only last for so long.

Shadowlands setting and graphics are top notch, but so was BFA’s. The same design flaws are still very present.

Raids/Dungeons have excessive number of mechanics, even worst than BFA. And this is coming from somebody who’s cleared +17’s in bfa. What they’re doing with dungeon mechanics is ridiculous, having to learn 500000 new mechanics every expansion isn’t fun.
Anima farming is the new azerite farming.
Covenants are superficial and heavily time gated.
Torghast is a complete joke in it’s current form.
PVP isn’t pvp because everyone dies in 2 seconds or less.
The profession economy is just as bad as it was in BFA, and most of the stuff is undesirable and you’re better off selling materials than trying to craft anything.

And this is just surface problems, there are a lot of other small issues that existed with BFA that are still in shadowlands. Many of which deal with the game community and toxicity.

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Go to classic if you want stuff with no mechanics lmao, be weird to not have to learn stuff with a new expansion

Not even close, azerite was directly linked with your power, anima is cosmetic stuff for the most part

You get the powers right away, and the time gate is basically leveling each week instead of killing yourself grinding like azerite

Yea thats fair

Maybe on your server

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Basically this tbh.

Hyperbole to say moving out of bad and killing adds is hard.

For what? Anima farming?? You do a couple dungeons and you have your anima for the week, which you don’t need to do.

More fun than wait 5 mins for dampening.

Selling mats has value now as compared to BFA when it was flooded with bots and multiboxers, isn’t that a good thing?

Jokes on you, I like grinds

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WoD was pretty good until it ran out of content at the end. Waaaaay better than SL comparing both at a month in.

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Are we playing the same game? I feel pretty relaxed at endgame, able to take it at my own pace or turn my attention to alts if I so like. I’ve already got 3 characters at max level, with a 4th halfway there!

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Ah yes, billion daily quests and junk raid

Then BRF launched ad it was good

Then garbage again

Yea, that small window of WOD was good

I don’t feel it is grindy at all. I just don’t buy into the expectation that I “have to” do everything that is offered and that I “have to” race to get there first.

Well I would hold all Horses. The problems that be are fewer than would be perceived. The biggest one Is that they need to make the game worth playing, and accessible to all classes that THEY CRAFTED. They made Dungeons less rewarding to punish players who don’t complete all content every week BTW. So keep that In mind.

This has to be an “XD” or a “/s” right?

If WoD had mythic+ I dare to say it would have been a pretty good expansion, imo.

I liked most of it. I miss defending Stormshield from Horde raids.

I don’t understand how people can feel this way, this game has more subscribers than ever and is in the best state it’s been in a while. All the “chores” are optional, Torghast takes all of 1 hour to complete and there’s proper gear progression for both PvP and PvE players. What’s the issue?

Being max level means absolutely nothing in reality other than you are max level.

Without items, renoun, rep and all of the misc currencies you cant do much of anything. You are just max level.

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Torghast Is the problem fool, needs to be playable for all classes. Other than that I don’t see very many Issues truly.

Welcome to an MMO enjoy the grind.

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What classes can’t run it? I’ve seen videos of nearly every class and spec doing very fun Anima power combos.