Shadowlands Class Identity = Artifacts mog for all specs

Now that the main focus will be classes as a whole instead of “spec identity” we should have a pass for artifacts skins not being bound to specs. Specially once they give the class kit to all specs. Every spec will be able to use tools from other specs like using shadow words on holy and disc priest (not to mention that both healing priest have shadow themed artifact skins that shadow could be happy to use <3)

Examples:
Frost DK: it will be able to use 2H. 2H that are blue from Blood and Unholy specs would be neat on frost. The same goes for blood red/green plague colors that are present in some Frost artifact skins.

Warrior: Fury and Arms specs will be able to use shields (with a macro in order to use abilities that they will share with Protection spec) so… why not give them the opportunity to use artifact skins that have a shield? Or even better, let Protection warrior mog the artifact of Arms spec, as a tribute to 2H tanking from Classic (it will be just a cosmetic, we can do this right now with toys, also the “1H + Shield” in Fury and Arms with toys too and there is no problem).

Shaman: The Restoration and Elemental artifacts should be interchangeable and the Elemental artifact could be used in Enhancement spec.
Hunter: Why do you need to be a MM to use quivers? A BM should be able to do this too or a Survival hunter using a ranged weapon (In Shadowlands they can use their whole kit with a ranged weapon so it is a viable option) so let hunters use the ranged artifact skins in all specs if they are using a ranged weapon.

Priest: Holy and Discipline have shadow themed artifact, please tell me why a Shadow Priest cannot mog this? https://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/533442-tuure-holy-priest-artifact.jpg

Those are but a few examples of artifacts that right now have no justification to not be in hands of all specs.
The only exceptions should be (for coding reasons) druids and hunters mogging melee weapons into artifacts, but apart from that there should be no more spec boundaries.

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Cool idea :smiley:

IDK man, is Blizzard after all…

Why should they change an old expansion feature released in 2016 because of a new expansion feature in 2020?

no different then going back into a old raid to tweak it to make is solo friendly they do it all the time

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They do this all the time. Also, spec “fantasy” never made any sense.

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They changed it once BFA come out so we could mog artifacts over weapons if you are on the correct spec.
The reason why they did not made it so all specs could do it was because of their philosophy about “spec identity” which will be thrown out of the window in the next expansion.

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Yes please.

You don’t want to know the things I’d do to mog the Holy Paladin artifact on Ret.

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They should not do it I remember specifically selecting MM hunter on the character select screen before choosing a name . If I just wanted to be a hunter I would of just selected hunter.

I can imagine… who do not want a smash a HUGE HAMMER onto enemies <3

Ashbringer on every paladin sounds good to me.

Hell that one big red dragony PVP sword from Fury as Arms? Sign me up my dude. That’s one of my favourite swords of all times but I hate playing Fury.

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Haha gottem boiz!

I wouldn’t mind that as long as there were some limits.
For example, I’m fine with Holy Paladins being able to mog their shield and 1H into their artifact weapon even though it was a 2H.

However I wouldn’t want to see Retribution Paladins transmogging a 2H weapon into the prot flail and shield combo. To the same degree I wouldn’t want prot to be able to transmog to one of the 2H artifact options whilst using a shield.

For Ret though using a 2H already I would be fine with it transmogging into the Holy artifact for example, or Holy using a 1H and shield transmogging into the prot variations.

The other restrictions would of course be things like ranged hunters using the Eagle Spear which is just silly.

Druids should simply get theirs as form options changeable at the order hall or something opposed to actually transmogging the daggers/claws. Resto and balance variations would of course be useable by all as typically they would use a weapon that can be transmogged to a stave anyway.

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In such case it would be nice if they implemented something like:
Blood DK using a red Frost’s artifact skin: Only one of the 2 swords made bigger to make it a 2H (instead of being 2 1H)
Arms warrior mogging the artifact skin of Fury: Only one of the 2 weapons is mogged but adjusted to being a single 2H
In some cases the size would not be needed to be changed, just the animations xD (look at these bad bois https://i.ytimg.com/vi/tDU9Blcsb4Q/maxresdefault.jpg a single one of those for unholy would be perfect <3 )

If that is not possible still, it would be nice if the specs that can use the same type of weapons can get the change to do it (like Retribution and Holy paladin for example)

I hope they eventually remove the spec lock. Wearing the Silver Hand as Ret would be awesome. I would also love to use Truthguard as Holy.

They also need to separate the main hand and offhand so they can be transmogged individually.

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OHHHH RIGHT, they still need to lift the restriction of artifact skins xD. In legion you could mog the shields, 1Hs and off hands differently unlike now. But it was not implemented in BFA because of druids… (they had to redo the mog system because of them)
So maybe some day it will be fixed :smiley:

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Maybe someday pigs will fly.

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It wouldn’t be difficult to do. They literally just opened up old legendaries for transmog.

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I thought it was rogues and their super-special-only-works-with-daggers-equipped animations that leave my priest completely unable to transmog one weapon type into another.

Now more than ever this stuff are more likely :D. They are giving special attention to the mog system and restrictions (like mogging each shoulder differently in the data of the alpha of next expansion and being able now to mog silly items

No, at least for artifacts:
#1 you cannot mog melee artifacts into wands (they could add a effect or make the daggers use the effects but… you know them xD)
#2 In the transition of Legion to BFA the reason why artifacts cannot be mogged differently (for example, mogging Shadow Priest offhand into another artifact while retaining the main hand) because they had problems with druids (because druids have their appereances linked to artifact names, so because they wanted to save time and instead of giving druids something different they just limited the whole thing for everyone)
#3 Yes if you are talking about daggers, those weapons cannot be mogged into anything else that is not a dagger but you still can mog it into their artifact xD (even if it is a staff)

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Yeah, I just realized that. I really should learn not to be posting while I should be sleeping. I was confusing excuses.

The druid thing is ridiculous to begin with. They should just separate the forms from the weapons. The transmog system deals with the weapon appearances, and put an NPC in the class hall to sell you glyphs for the forms you’ve unlocked.

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