I really wanted to level in Revendreth and Ardenweald, but they force you to go to Bastion first and then Maldraxxus, etc.
By the time you get done with Bastion and Maldraxxus (just doing the main quest line) you’re already over level 50. So, you can only do a little bit of Ardenweald before Chromie Time takes you out.
You can continue questing there after CT, but with much lower experience. I kind of wish Threads of Fate was back, because Reven was awesome.
Why did they get rid of Threads of Fate when all the other expansions let you go to whatever zones you want to?
I don’t know, never read or heard the reasoning behind that decision. Just one of many Blizzard mistakes, and a big one at that.
It would only make sense to me if SL was the new default expansion, but I’m pretty sure (unless I missed the change) the default is still BFA. That’s a weird design choice. When I go to like MoP or Legion, I can quest in any zone I like.
In TBC, they let you level in any zone.
Wrath, same thing.
MoP, same thing.
Cataclysm, same thing.
Warlords, same thing.
Legion, they even let you go to Suramar at 30.
BFA, they even have you start the war quests as soon as you get there, like going to Vol, Zuld and Naz, instead of waiting every other level.
But Shadowlands is where they draw the line…
I think they want people to forget Shadowlands happened. In any case, in BfA zones now have level restrictions.
In each of these zones there are minimum level requirements. You can’t go to Twilight Highlands at level 10.
That is true, but a key difference though is the amount of content you CAN do in each of those expansions as compared to Shadowlands.
In TBC, you can do any zone at 10.
In Wrath, you can do Borean, Dragonblight, Howling Fjord and I believe Grizzly Hills at level 10.
In MoP, I don’t recall any level restrictions.
In Cataclysm though, you have almost all of the Eastern Kingdoms and Kalimdor you can do until you hit the restriction cap.
In Warlords, I don’t believe there’s a level restriction to the zones.
BFA, I didn’t know they had level restrictions now, that kind of blows.
But in Shadowlands though, they force you to do only 1 zone at a time, it’s not level restricted. But I do agree with the thought “They want us to forget”.
Chromie time needs an overhaul. It’s never been quite right for the scenario you describe. Perhaps Chromie time, if done a certain way, could eliminate the need for all these classic era servers. I know….easier said than done.
It’s a silly technical reason they did that since they made Shadowlands linear, I do agree though threads of fate made shadowlands leveling pretty fun. It was a shame they removed that option. Because leveling with torghast would have been nice.
You can’t. You can only do HFP and Zangarmarsh at 10.
The zones in all earlier expansions were originally designed on the assumption that you were leveling up enough to reach the next zone. When it came time to go to that next zone, you might have several different choices.
Look at the BC map now. If you are not in Chromie time, these are the level ranges you will see:
Hellfire Peninsula: 10-30
Zangarmarsh: 10-30
Terokkar Forest: 15-30
Nagrand: 15-30
Blade’s Edge Mountains: 20-30
Shadowmoon Valley: 25-30
Netherstorm: 25-30
Keep in mind that after Vanilla, leveling was only intended to gain you 10 levels (5 for cata and mop). Legion introduced the “choice” of what order to do them in, but you really had to do them all on your first character. So it wasn’t really a choice. While in BfA we had a choice of which of the 3 zones to start leveling in, that was only 10 levels we had to get. Look at the BfA map now:
Zuldazar: 10-60
Nazmir: 20-60
Vol’dun: 30-60
Now look at Shadowlands:
Bastion: 10-53
Maldraxxus: 10-55
Ardenweald: 10-58
Revendreth: 10-60
The scaling is completely different. But you have to do them in order, so it’s a throwback to earlier expansions.
Scaling was a problem throughout the beta, as you had to get enough xp to reach a certain level threshold or you couldn’t move into the next zone. But if you got too much xp you would overlevel and not get xp in the next zone. It was carefully balanced until Ion saw Alliance streamers leveling in warmode too fast and cut everybody’s xp by 30%. A moment of silence for common sense.
I agree, it was a ridiculous move. If you had already done the normal run through on a character, and ToF was something they had already designed for the game, why not make it an ongoing option?
If it makes any sense at all to remove it, I have not yet seen it.
Edit: I have seen it written up somewhere that if you take a brand new level 50 alt (?) you can start ToF, but not if it a higher level than that. Perhaps someone could clarify that.
Perhaps if you have already completed all the questing on another character. They did a lot of micromanaging leveling in Shadowlands.
And that’s why I said an alt. ToF required you to do the full runthrough on a character first.
I was under the impression that at one point they said that any level 60 could choose a covenant on arrival. That is not currently true. However, a level 59 of mine does have a flight point in each zone after starting Maldraxxus. I haven’t gone back to figure out how this works.
they want to pretend shadowlands doesnt exist, thats why youre still shoehorned into bfa still and not sl lol. whatever they did with sl + chromie was a quick job and they put bare minimum efforts to it.
Same. I don’t mind leveling through SL via threads of fate. Having to do the story again bites, though.
Also some what with Legion. But with BFA and SL, you never really get to use the borrowed power much, if at all, before you move on.
Azurite armor and necklace, all the conduits and what not in SL should be available at lv 10. Screw balance in this particular case.
At the start of Shadowlands, the heart of azeroth and azerite gear were available to level 10’s. This resulted in a level 10 streamer twink grinding his neck up to some ungodly ilvl in the first week. There were a number of oversights he took advantage of in several expansions.
Im just not quite sure why anyone would want to go to Shadowlands at level 60.
At level 60, you are going to Dragonflight.
There’s plenty to collect in Shadowlands.
And you may not be aware of this, but there are a lot of players who didn’t buy Dragonflight.