Shadowfang Keep under Alliance control

Per the Exploring Azeroth book, Ivar Bloodfang and the Bloodfang Pack are in control of Shadowfang Keep and retain control of Fenris Isle. They’ve taken most of the artifacts from Shadowfang Keep to Fenris Keep, in order to keep a better eye on them.

Ivar is Shaw’s point of contact in the area and Shaw warns his agents not to let their guard down, on account of how close the pack are to the feral state.

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Wonder what’s keeping/making them “feral”. A long excursion to Hyjal or Stormwind seems to be in order, to civilise them.

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That’s a pretty good location to claim to cut off Hillsbrad and the Alterac Mountains.

Now would be a pretty good time to push to crush the Horde for any Alliance warmongers on Azeroth

That’s not a bad choice as it was tied more to the worgen story however sieging the keep was more important to the horde. :thinking:

Now if only these were actually in game, but I’ll take whatever victory I can get.

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They probably wouldn’t want to undergo the rituals or the Gilnean alchemy treatment.

As part of Alpha Prime/Ralaar’s Wolf Cult that attacked Gilneas City, the Bloodfang Pack basically chose to become worgen because it would make them more feral and more powerful. They aren’t interested in being more like their old selves again, and haven’t been since they joined Ralaar and especially since they earned his “blessing” after murdering innocents as a rite of passage to become worgen.

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That’s a little bit surprising.

Not because it isn’t logical, or interesting, or whatever.

But because it is. It makes sense that things are different than they were in the past. But a lot of the time, when we have expanded universe material, they aren’t. They just stay the same. Writers are unwilling, uncaring, or unable to treat the world like a world and not a static game environment. Characters walk to a location and it’s like they’re roleplaying in the actual game and having to work around outdated expansion content.

I’d half expect Shaw and Flynn to mention that Shadowfang is filled with hostile undead and that the worgen and Forsaken are infiltrating the place to try and kill Lord Godfrey after he just killed Sylvanas, as if this was still Cata times. I’m a little shocked they don’t.

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Which is sort of expected. The moment Stromgarde was rebuilt and Arathi lost, any real chance that the Forsaken had of holding Hillsbrad dwindled immensely in their current state. And since Gilneas is also in the firing line of the Alliance, and Crowley’s lands are actually those territories north of the Greymane wall … its not shocking that Shadowfang might be a focal point for Alliance occupation.

Honestly, if somehow the Hinterlands could be secured and the Forest Trolls allied with, the strongest national defense point for the EK Horde would actually be the Southern Hinterlands range; bolstering the Frostwolves’ control over Alterac; and the repositioning Forsaken forces to the naturally defensive territory just north of the prior Forsaken Front. Then the Forsaken take and reinforce Fenris Isle, and the BEs, Forsaken, and Forest Trolls take full custody of the Plaguelands. But Aerie Peak, as always, is a constant annoying tumor to stable, geographically clean, defined borders.

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While Ivar is a point of contact, calling either one under Alliance control is a stretch, I’d assume the Bloodfang are on the Bloodfang’s side, not either of the factions. The Horde is their express enemy, but the Alliance essentially abandoned them, twice at this point.

Granted, I’m unsure how they’re holding either one, since the Forsaken didn’t lose any of their territory barring Undercity, and pushed the Alliance back out. I assume they were just too occupied with other things and suddenly turned around and the angry werewolves had moved in. Granted, if the Bloodfang incorporated all the Hillsbrad refugees that went worgen that’s… a lot of worgen.

God, what a horrible fate for what were originally civilians. Escape Hillsbrad and avoid undeath, only to be forced to become feral wolf people and squat in dank ruins for the rest of your foreseeable life. I wonder how many of the refugees even remember who they were prior, at this point. None of them underwent the balancing ritual, as far as I’m aware.

Cataclysm was… a lot.

I think some of the Amani realizing that begrudgingly working with the horde and 80% of Trolldom to get half their lands back is better than sitting and moping in the Zandalari’s basement would be a great story beat. Especially since there’s the carrot of being able to unleash vengeance on the family of troll slaughterers in Stromgarde in the case of another big war.

Hell, I would just love to see either the Tauren tribes or Troll tribes to create a stronger confederation of tribes in general.

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The Alliance seems to be racking up more and more territory, as the Horde is fading away. Not surprising. I just hope as the dust settles, that the Horde still holds Hammerfall, and maintains a front at the Arathi Basin. If only for the sake of sentimentality.

But with the Arathi Warfront being claimed as another Alliance victory, it is hard to imagine what exactly the Horde and the Forsaken will be left holding in the Eastern Kingdoms outside of Quelthalas.

It isn’t THAT suprising. I mean, a Good War told you the Alliance won Warsong Gulch to the point the Alliance controlled the Mogos’har Ramparts. Terror by Tourchlight had some updates to Darkshire(namely Sarah Ladimore taking over the night watch).

Well luckly the Forsaken do not have it and it does belong to the Alliance.

I assume that was always the point, hence why both factions will constantly be half a step away from war. Heck. the Alliance even wants to rebuild Southshore.

I don’t think any ingame ‘contested’ zones will ever swing wholly one way or another.

I wouldn’t be surprised if the Alliance reclaims all of the southern Lordaeron subcontinent.

They have Arathi. If they reclaim Gilneas(which seems likely), it would make sense for them to hold the zones in between the two.

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I’d bet the Bloodfang are being influenced by whatever that “mystery” is under Tirisfal Glades that made the original Highborne settlers (whom would go on to found Quel’Thalas) go insane.

It’s the same situation again.

You know that’s not a mystery anymore, right?

They revealed back in Legion that there was a C’Thrax sealed beneath the area.

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I was under the impression there was still more under there?

I know that a single C’Thrax is bad enough, and I’m not trying to downplay this.

Maybe? I mean I guess there’s a whole titan facility there, where it was imprisoned. So there could be more going on there.

Regardless, it seems likely that the C’Thraxxi was what was causing the Elves to go mad.

What Vespero said.

But it’s probably as others have said - simply that they’ve embraced the OG feral nature of the worgen.

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Southshore I’m fine with. The Dwarven City built in the last bastion of Forest Troll land, and its portrayed as if the Forest Trolls are the aggressors because the Dwarves didn’t throw the first punch (they just moved in and stole the land) is absurd. When you combine the fact that Aerie Peak was used as a means to allow Human Settlers into Western Plaguelands, and the weird notion that the Wildhammer Capital is isolated half a continent away from a sizable chunk of their own people … I do not like that city.

If Magni is right, the Old God corruption of Azeroth is on the way out. The Alliance has access to Void and Light specialists aplenty, and even the Dark Irons responsible for the corruption of Grim Batol are allies once again. I’m also certain Anduin could ask a favor of Wrathion and even Magni himself to help out. It is time for the Wildhammer to go home and rebuild their ancestral homelands. Which is a luxury the BElves do not have. They cannot move from the Sunwell, even if they had some place to return to. Which they do not, so I am willing to give them a little more benefit of the doubt than the Dwarves on the issue.

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