Shadow tuning?

Classes Priest
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  • Shadow

    • All damage increased by 10%. Not applied to PvP combat.

    • Shadow Word: Death damage increased by 40%. Not applied to PvP combat.

    • Mind Blast damage increased by 20%. Not applied to PvP combat.

    • Mind Flay damage increased by 20%. Not applied to PvP combat.

    • Idol of N’Zoth damage increased by 20%. Not applied to PvP combat.

    • Shadow Word: Madness damage increased by 20%. Not applied to PvP combat.

    • Psychic Link now causes direct damage spells to inflict 20% of their damage to all other targets afflicted by Vampiric Touch (was 60%).

So they buff our bottom of the barrel ST by around 15% and then nerf the only thing we had going (AOE) by 60%??

So now we will just be bad at everything lmfaooo

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Is this actual tuning that’s about to happen?

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Yes will be live on the 17th. Peep wowhead for the post.

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It seems like a big swing 60 to 20. We will see if the ST buffs make up for it. On top of 10% overall.
Going to be interesting :thinking: let’s see.

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I feel like I am stuck in a timeloop where shadow goes through the same changes every patch. The time to give us another aoe option other than psychic link was this expansion blizzard… it just cannot be our top source of dmg in aoe, it hasn’t worked for an entire expansion.

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how… how does that psychic link nerf make it to live. Shadow has NO true aoe. we are cleave. tent slam is not a means to perform aoe dps in dungeons, and our best bet has been to optimize our pulls where we have the right target count and send it with cds and high amounts of cleave damage with link.

maybe we can get Mind Sear back? something? What a horrific change.

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The Psychic Link nerf isn’t a big deal in PVE because of the large buffs to ST spells, but those buffs only apply to PVE, while the Psychic Link nerf also hits PVP lol. Poor shadow. Meanwhile Sub rogues got buffed.

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Sims show this as a pretty significant nerf to AoE that gets bigger the more targets there are. Shadow will be pretty much bottom tier for M+ and lower mid tier for raid.

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2/3rds loss of transfered damage, but the damage that can transfer went up 20%…

pre tuning a 100 dmg hit transfered 60 damage via PL. Post tuning now that hit does 120 damage and transfer 24 damage via PL….

that is a HUGE nerf to a class that doesn’t have a true AOE capability and relies on nearly 100% cleave off of a priority target. Shadow will go to F tier in M+ because they simply don’t have a button to press by design.

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I can’t believe this will go live. If it does, they will just end up buffing it back up. That big of a nerf to PL has to be a mistake. Typo?

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I think this is why we have to start demanding to see these secret “internal metrics” that they claim are right while every other verifiable public log ever is actually wrong. Because if their “internal metrics” aren’t “nothing”, I would be shocked.

You got the metrics? Lets see em. No, dont shuffle your feet and look around. Lets see.

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Psychic link nerf barely affects pvp because shadow’s damage wasn’t coming from direct damage spells or psychic link. It was coming from Shadow Word: Pain with IN talented and that wasn’t touched at all.

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This Psychic link nerf isn’t even a nerf, it’s gutted and obliterated. Over a 50% nerf.

It should at least be 40 percent. Meanwhile a lot of s tier casters dodged the nerf bat…

I don’t know boys, they got me worried about m+ performance now.

If they don’t revert some of this nerf to pl id be shocked . 60 to 20 percent is just crazy.

Were bortom c tier… this puts our st at b maybe best… but drastically hurts our aoe. They are so sus man… priests get one dps spec it should never fall under a or b tier come on now

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I’m glad I cancelled my sub today. I would like to invite and encourage every single person here to do the same.

I am finally free of the abusive relationship, and it feels good.

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I’m honestly a bit blown away by it, someone looked at these “metrics” of a low performing cleave class and nerfed their cleave with no actual means to produce AoE damage.

We would need insane dot damage increases to mitigate this, we would need mind sear some how melted back into our tool kit or rotation.

We depend waaay too much on void tentacle for dot spread, damage setup, capstone.

I don’t hate the class but with apparitions being the apex locking in builds for the whole expac, and then a seemingly thoughtless change. I might need to just call it on shadow for the season and finish this shaman

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Yeah just about everyone was expecting a decent buff as the class has been struggling. Now they just gutted it completely with no thought process.

If they want us to be a high ST spec that cleaves with PL then that’s fine but shadow will need to be a top performing spec in ST to accomplish that.

If it falls anywhere in the middle or the lower end it is practically useless in an M+ environment

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The fact that they didn’t specifically buff apparitions is actually wild.

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Yea this is honestly atrocious. Like how can they completely gut something by 40% when priest damage is already garbage

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100% for the PL nerf. Keeping that spell so dominant in every AoE scenario felt flat.
This will atleast make our actual spells do damage, if the AoE is that low then more changes will come most likely.

But they really need to stop keeping PL as the entire constant AoE Shadow has.
There are so many more things that can be made into Shadows AoE instead of a passive cleave that changes nothing at all.

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this is their fault. They give us mind sear in df and if I’m not mistaken take it away during the same expansion.

shadow needs a dedicated person who gives a damn.

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