Shadow PvP

So, I mainly play disc but dabble in shadow. I read/hear how OP shadow is in PvP, but that hasn’t been my experience. My damage is mediocre as is my self healing. I’m running a generic wowhead Shadowpriest pvp build.

I seem to struggle generating insanity whereas other Spriests I’ve seen have it in abundance. Any general tips one could give?

Spriests are strong because we have a response to almost any situation, but it’s not a class like a dh or fury warr where you can just tunnel someone with unhealable damage until they flop. We have very strong burst if you line up some of our cds, but in e.g. solo shuffle or any arena really you still need to cross cc. That might be fear + mind bender on a kill target, stunning another dps, and silencing a healer and bursting or something else depending on the situation.

Also unless it’s been updated the wowhead pvp build is garbage. Look at drustvar to get a more realistic idea of what high ranking spriests are playing for arenas; I would imagine if you take rbgs seriously a build with more aoe might be viable too.

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Shadow priest op asf I have been maining ret since launch recently started playing my priest not even close shadow priest is so easy to lol

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Anboni is the King of shadow! Follow Anboni on youtube for all your awesome pvp Shadow action.

People speak to a spec being OP when it’s in the hands of a player who’s skill-capped or very nearly skill-capped. Spriests have a very large skill ceiling. You’re not going to see the results you hear about simply by dabbling in it, truth be told.

Spriests have an insane amount of utility (improved mass dispel existing effectively renders rets out of the meta) instant CC, and damage.

There’s basically just too much all contained within one spec.

Well, that’s part of your problem right there.

Various shadow priests have their talent build preferences. Most of them look fairly similar, with the below talents being the ones we typically see taken or not taken:

  1. Deathspeaker
  2. pain of death (as a result of deathspeaker)
  3. Damnation
  4. Mind Devourer
  5. idol of N’zoth
  6. Insidious Ire
  7. Inescapable Torment
  8. psychic link
  9. Maddening touch (niche, and debatable. I’ve personally never run it. It maaaaay become better when we have our 2pc and DP’s damage goes up a lot, thus increasing the value of insanity generation)

Personally, the build I’m spec’d into right now has been my favorite.

Typically you’d adjust the above depending on what you need. If you’re playing with a rogue who would prefer more targets to be rotting, you might look for talents like psychic link, deathspeaker, and pain of death.

If you’re playing with an affl lock and it feels like a lot of targets are low but you can’t kill them, you might go for something like inescapable torment and insidious ire to beef up your single target.

Whether you’re able to cast more frequently or not may also inform the talents you choose.

As an example, inescapable requires disruption to your existing rotation as your priorities change while mindbender is active. It may require you to hard cast mind blast, which may not be feasible at all times.

No one plays y’shaarj any more. Don’t give bad advice, please.

That’s complete cope sp is easy asf

Yes I believe you covered that in your earlier intelligent comment.

Unfortunately I’m not seeing that you have a shred of priest experience in the arena, and that you have over 500 solo shuffle games played yet are hardstuck 1,600, and your highest rated arena experience is about 1,200. In 2’s.

Perhaps it’s possible that you don’t have a clue what you’re talking about.

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Yip new account since wod also not playing meta class which shadow priest is xD

Mine is also a new account.

I had 2x gladiators from MoP as a shadow priest and multiple 2.4K+ in legion and BFA.

Ret is a decent class in solo shuffle and it’s strong in 3’s. If you were any good, you would not be hardstuck 1600 in solo shuffle after over 500 games played. Certainly you’d have better experience in 3v3

You just said

And now you’re saying

I don’t think you put a lot of thought into what you type.

And in any case, because you clearly don’t play shadow priest, why are you in a shadow priest thread adding zero value? Like just go away. You’re absolutely useless here. I’m not in the ret forums because I don’t play ret.

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Hey man i got r1 on my other account. People still play yshaar. Dont give dumb advice. Theres tons of builds atm. Majority seem to be playing wizk/stahhps psychic link build. Theres bender build. Theres Yogg build. Theres Big mind blast no link build. And then theres my personal fav and one i use Sucky suck tendy build. WEIRD THING ABOUT SP IS almost any build is viable and usable.

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don’t use wowhead pvp builds.

go to murlok(dot)io and look up the 5 best in each spec and copy

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Lol, who? When?

That talent is awful now. I can’t fathom playing it under any circumstance.

Yeah, said that. Most of the builds distinguish themselves by a variant combination of the spells I listed above. None of those include Y’shaarj that I’ve seen.

Yshaar i will still run v heavy heavy melee for thr fear breaking aspect for peels in shuffle. Even with my sustain build. As well as hpal match ups to solo kill them. It 100 percent has its uses. Is it every game no. But saying its bad is just saying you yourself are bad

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That seems… interesting. To each his own!