We all knew it was coming. After the continual Spriest nerfs, their raid damage has fallen off, from upper mid to bottom 5 or 6. Now Spriests are heading toward the same spot they always end up at. Being there for the PI. Because the top DPS classes love PI. And if you add the DPS PI brings to the Top DPS classes to the Spriest, then they are doing top 5 DPS. But outside of that, they arent doing good.
Granted there are other classes doing worse. But look at the M+ Meta. The nerfs did nothing to really change the current Meta, because of Spriest Utility. The Nerfs have literally just hurt Spriests in All Content outside running M+ with the meta Comp.
I know they have said that they dont balance around PI. And that they dont balance against the top 1% of players, but everything we have seen, with all of the targeted nerfs, seems to lend itself to doing just that. Balancing the class on it PI’ing value targets in a raid, and being played in the high end Meta M+ group.
They just needed to reign in Spriest Utility. Make Mass Dispell a choice Node with another value piece of utility. And set PI on fire and let it burn to ashes. We continually see Spriest get Nerfs due to it. And we also see DPS specs that love PI get nerfed due to how well they scale with PI. So then you have specs that dont put up good numbers unless they are getting PI for their CDs.
We are at that point where clarity on the nerf/buff tuning would be useful. Because in some cases, the tuning changes look good, but in others, it just doesnt stir the koolaid.
I’d be more surprised if blizzard made balance changes that actually made sense. It’s not even up for debate at this point that they have absolutely no clue what they are doing in terms of class balance in this game anymore
Only way to balance them is make PI self cast only or remove it.
It’s to useful for balance purposes you have to have SP at the bottom 2-3 specs for DPS otherwise.
And this right here is why I stopped giving a you know what, about my Priest.
The cycle seems to always be. Shadow does well (or really any class that through good design and balance beats Mage DPS). Mage Community screams despite the fact that at least 2 or all Mage Specs continue to occupy the upper 10 dps ranks. Shadow is nerfed immediately while far more pressing game issues go un-fixed.
Mage Community continues to shriek until a new class overshadows Frost… briefly.
So long as 65-77k is enough to down Mythic bosses what is the problem? S priest is still #11 in Heroic level stuff and #9 for normal. Maybe the other classes scale better at Mythic Ilvls? What about relation between classes that got buffed by the same patch?
The funny thing is the utility has always been there. It’s the dungeons this round that make SPriest utility so good.
SPriests are better rogues than rogues.
They need to nerf dungeons or have a Better think on overall dungeon design. Dumpstering priests doesn’t fix dungeon design problems.
Mobs with truesight make rogue or invisibility skips useless. All reworked dungeons also have their mobs given True Sight as well. Mind Soothe is spamable and should have a decent mana cost to prevent it. There is so much bosses or trash with nasty magic debuffs or buffs that mass dispell is mandatory. And Mind Control is awesome, that last tyranical key cycle you could MC the affix mob and it would nerf the boss. Also PI, preferably on a mage😆
I was just looking at one of the charts posted for DPS for the entire M raid and it was in that range. The question is still even with the nerfs are S priests able to meet the DPS requirements for the content being ran. If the answer is yes then that is not dumpstered. I’m thinking people are over-reacting over placement on some statistical chart. Dumpstered is being nerfed to the point you can no longer complete content not a combination of buffs to some classes and nerfs to others caused your rank position to shift.