In my tireless crusade to have shadow form not annoy me out of playing shadow priest.
Please give shadow form the auto out of combat interaction.
It would be much cooler to pop into shadow form out of combat
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God yes. I hate that it hides mogs entirely. An auto-toggle would be fantastic.
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I have to solidly disagree.
As a Shadow priest, the whole idea is to surrender to the void, not occasionally shake hands like an acquaintance with the void…
All or nothing.
Go Void or Go Home!
That being said, it can’t hurt to just do the same thing with the Dracthyr/Worgen.
I don’t use it on my Dracthyr. I don’t even know what my human form even looks like lol.
Same with my Worgen. IF you are in your normal human form, I say you are boring af and need to just go be unimaginative with the dudes who rolls 8 Human Male Warriors…
Just because I think it is stupid, does not mean that there is not a solution that makes both sides happy, and yeah. Turning Void form into another “Visage” as an OPTION would be pretty good.
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To me the entire premise of Void / Shadow form makes no sense.
Apparently Shadow Priests can completely surrender to the void… then 20 seconds later be picking berries like nothing ever happened… VOID FORM!!.. back to being a trusted member of socie-SURPRISE VOID FORM!
The fantasy of summoning Void tentacles / Things from Beyond, conjuring Shadowy Aspirations etc. is still as prominent without Shadow Form.
SF is default, I would actually prefer to see SF become a capstone talent when you build into going mad, opposed to summoning creatures / focusing on DoTs.
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You expect void and shadow to listen to Light?
You really expect a goodie-goodie-two-shoes to command the void? No. I expect a priest, who has devoted proper time into harnessing the energies of the void. In doing so, they almost become one with the darkness of void.
And I meant literally surrendering to the void, not the spell you dipstick.
Thats the point of a shadow priest. To
Its even the reason why Disc and Shadow priests have often shared the same stat priorities…Disc, aka Discipline Priests, are the only members of their order who have the skills, the discipline, to maintain their sanity when exposing and guiding such malignant forces.
No Holy Priest, no Paladin, has the distinction of being able to even THINK about using the power of Void.
Just because YOU are unaware of the deeper lore and meaning behind things, does not mean the whole game needs to change.
Show me the void spell that holy priests cast…
Don’t worry, I’ll wait.
No.
Setting Shadow Form to being a capstone, would be like putting Ranged weapons behind a capstone for Hunters in every spec…
You need a ranged weapon for ranged attacks, so it only makes sense that you would need shadow form to use void spells…
Next you want rogues to stop being able to stealth, or duids wont need their shapeshifting…
You suggested literally one of the most anti-roleplaying-game ideas I have ever seen on here. You should be ashamed of trying to cut more role playing out of a game that already took out so much rp.
Don’t do to priests, what Blizzard did to Druids.
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It would be cooler to pop into shadowform in combat in my opinion.
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You completely missed my point, and I don’t know why you took it personally.
Not too sure why you’re going on about the Light or goodie-two shoes.
My issue is the idea that a mortal (such as a Human Shadow Priest) can surrender to the void, but for it to seemingly be temporary and the SPriest is able to just shrug off and bounce back from it like nothing else happened. SPriests are still considered normal people, they can still heal and help their allies.
Again, I am confused as to why you’re talking about Holy Priest.
That’s a ridiculous comparison.
If a Hunter unequips their Bow they literally can not function. There is no way around it.
The only restrictions Shadow Form inflict upon the Priest are arbitrary. Why do you need to be in Shadow Form to cast Devouring Plague for example?
If Shadow Form didn’t exist the Shadow Priest casting a Shadow spell would still make sense. A Fire Mage doesn’t need to be on Fire to cast Fire Ball.
Glyph of Stars is massively popular. But again, ridiculous comparisons.
Oh! But since you did ask nicely:
Void Shift
Void Shield
Void Tendrils
If we count Shadow magic as an extension of Void (which we should):
Shadowfiend
Shadow Word: Death
Shadow Word: Pain
Mindgames
Vampiric Embrace
Was this supposed to be some kind of gotcha? I don’t even play Priest.
(Sorry I kept you waiting)
Ha that’s what I meant!
You should also be able to customize your shadowform like visages. Make it so you’re not a purple ghost but instead start sprouting tentacles and get covered in corruption and such. Maybe you can keep the glowing eyes. Maybe you’d like to be in candy pink shadows instead of dark purple ones because you’re edgy but also cute. Give it some of the love that druid forms were given in Legion.
I would be pretty happy with a glyph that just cleared the shadow completely. Same for balance druid, I know they have stars but they could do better. I love transmog too much.
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Because you clearly know nothing about shadow priest lore.
As I already said.
And it is not temporary, the void just likes to lie.
Hiding, waiting.
Again, you understand nothing of the lore.
pretty sure every one of those is a talent, and as I said before… you have to pick those as optional talents, for the most part.
Tapping in is not the same as cutting the tree down and drinking the sap fresh…
It isn’t temporary, thus the Shadow Form. Thus why you can’t cast any of those spells without your Shadow Form. Obviously there are exclusions, no dur!
AGain, go void or go home. Either you take on the void or you don’t. That is the bargain you make for power…
They don’t. AGain, you know nothing. Most spriests go mad. Like, void-deathwingy-wants-to-destroy-everything kind of mad…Canonically, there are like three spriests that have not lost their sanity…entirely.
But we are the players in this game, so things are slightly different.
Again, you know nothing. Almost every spriest in lore was never trusted. Always kept on a leash and watched.
Again you know nothing…
And void magic requires you to put on a cloak.
The spriest can’t function without the cloak of shadows…
clearly you have never met a fire mage…
They don’t care who it is, somebody is going to be on fire!
And yeah, they do catch fire…have you ever watched them? They wreathe themselves in literal flame to be able to increase their damage potential…aka tapping into the plane of fire to draw even greater heat into their flames.
Again, you know nothing.
the astral form is literally the same as shadow form.
Glyph of Stars just makes you a literal astral being drawing from Elune directly, instead of nature AND Elune.
AGain, you know nothing and have no imagination.
Your only argument that was honest was this:
Because, as I covered, you know nothing about the lore, the class, the spec, nor the design philosophy behind Shadow Priests, yet you want to try and tell a BC Shadow Priest vet that they don’t understand it?
Judging by your weak arguments for your own cause, I would wager you know about as much about hunters as you do about Spriest…
Leave the post, and stoop trying to derail the topic.
You presented your idea. It was flawed in almost every way.
OP however had a point. As I said in the first place.
Make it just work like the Dracthyr Visage form, so people can have a CHOICE in how they play their own damn game lol.
Lore does not come before gameplay and game mechanics.
With that said, not every Shadow Priest uses Shadow Form.
Hiding. HIDING you say whilst arguing why Shadow Priests should literally be glowing purple 24/7.
You said, word for word, “Show me the void spell that holy priests cast”.
I gave you a list of 8 spells. You said nothing about being a talent. What does it being a talent have to do with anything?
It literally is.
An arbitrary game mechanic. Nothing more.
Harping on about lore again.
It could. Very easily.
How are you consistently missing the point?
EXACTLY. Fire Mages do catch fire and that’s when their Fire spells are amplified. But they’re not on fire all the time. That’s literally what I’m saying about Shadow Form.
Good lord, another point missed.
Astral Form is popular because it lets you see more of your character. That’s all people want. It’s why Shadow Form isn’t a fun game mechanic.
Priests have amazing tier sets (visually). Shadow Priests hide half the details.
This post was created by somebody not wanting Shadow Form 24/7. I am in agreement with that.
You’re the one arguing it and trying to ramble on about lore.
PS Anduin used Shadow Magic in MoP (without Shadow form). But then went on to be a Holy boy.
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This would make shadow priest bearble.
Just play Warlock. Shadow Priest’s Shadow Form is the iconic spell that makes them cool. If you don’t like it, play a Warlock. Not that hard.
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you literally never even read my post.
I never said it should be 24/7 for everybody.
But because you know nothing, you just assumed.
You really do need to learn how to just do the basic reading part.
I’ve said it three times now.
Make it visage form style, so people have a choice.
AKA I agree with op. You are just getting stuck on the wrong topic. Focusing only on the lore half of my original statement,
but you completely ignored the second half of my first statement:
so stop. get help. get hooked on phonics or something.
just stop. you know you are wrong.
You got caught up on the wrong part of my post. It happens. And if you respond at this point, you are only attempting to derail the topic further.
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Buddy every time you reply it’s like a dissertation. It’s hard to pluck the nugget of reasonableness out of 20 paragraphs of rambling.
But actually you did. Your very first sentence in this thread is:
That is quite literally you saying it should be 24/7 for everyone. I never ignored anything. “All or nothing” can in no way be interpreted as “I never said it should be 24/7 for everybody”. It can only be interpreted as you dd say that.
And at this stage I think it’s fair to say this conversation is going nowhere. Lets just call it quits here.
If they removed shadow form, i would be able to play a shadow priest.
I care about my character too much to be okay with playing as a blob of purple gas.
It just looks awful. Its an absolute deal breaker.
Shadow form adds nothing to the spec apart from inconvenience.
At the very least, a glyph to fully remove the effect should be added.
if you are going to quote the post, put the rest in there.
It just proves that I was right. You never read the first post entirely,. and raged at me for like two days about it.
That’s why you keep intentionally leaving out that part of what I said in the first place.
It would require you to admit fault…
Which you can’t and won’t do, and you will likely continue to attempt to derail this.
So deuces. Imma go back to my mage.
I dont play my priest much, but that sounds like a great idea.
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