I think Shadow Priest have one of the coolest themes. Hope 10.0 brings more void/old god spells!
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As long as we stay away from the previous iterations of Voidform, I’m happy.
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For me the previous iterations of Voidform were the best place Shadow has ever been. All would be well today if they had just continued development of that system.
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I kind of liked the shadow theming… the thing about shadow is it’s not a synonym for darkness or void - it’s cast by the LIGHT and reflects that, in other words in my head canon it makes more sense for a shadow priest to be a blend of light and darkness and not some disciple of Cthulhu.
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This. It was just overall more enjoyable than void-themed stuff for a Priest, in my opinion.
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I enjoy the current shadow priest. I wish they took inspiration from classic. I would like it if they add more void/old god spells as well utility
In wow, lights opposite is shadow from the void. If there’s shadow it stems from the void so more void would be the only route to go. Old god look just happens to be the madness manifested from said void.
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Wish there was a glyph to turn power word shield into one of those void shield graphics.
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Current iteration of shadow priest is bad and they should scrap it and go back to BFA’s version. There’s no benefit to running a Spriest over fire mage as they both play the same, but there is less risk, and more reward for playing the mage.
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I’d like it to be a better reflection of darker religious themes rather than just a purplemancer.
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the problem with legion and BFA shadow priest design is that it only worked in one environment…raiding.
in pvp it was awful. in m+ it was awful. in the open world it was awful. thats just a design that doesnt work
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the problem with legion and BFA shadow priest design is that it only worked in one environment…raiding.
Nah, you’re forgetting one more super compelling area of gameplay: target dummies and Surrender to Madness! 99 Voidform stacks! Dragon Ball Z Super Saiyan 3 theme! ZOMG gogogo! /s
What you’re saying is the 100% truth, and it is what a lot of advocates of the Legion and BFA-era voidform pervasively refuse to admit. YES - it was super awesome…in super niche applications. But not everyone wants to just log on just for raids where you only bring distinctive value to two multidot/council fights per tier, get wrecked on every fight with intermissions or tight burst DPS checks, and occasionally hit target dummies on off-nights.
PVP and questing in Legion/BFA were probably the worst they ever were as Shadow. M+ was doable, almost competitive, but only with perfect Azerite traits (and later, Corruptions) that were repeatedly nerfed and a tank that chain pulled so you never lost voidform stacks (which screwed the rogue in your party because he frequently didn’t have time to re-stealth).
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Tru. Super sayin voidform was fun tho 
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the pvp talent for void shield. I want to be in the talent tree. I’d also like the option for insta voidform cast, although not mandatory. it does make the way shadow plays in pvp feel smother then in pve.
Agreed! I wish shadow embraced the “church of the shadow” or w/e it’s called instead of just “void muahahaha”.
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The Cult of Forgotten Shadows
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I disagree, its a design that had aspects that were flawed and needed work, but it was also better thought out, unique, and more cohesive than this crap we have now.
Imagine if bfa/legion void form eruption planted sw:p on all targets, and ghosts would spawn to all Sw: p targets whenever vb, DP, or MB was used. Ghosts now also explode to deal increased damage to targets with dots runningin an aoe. Further increased by the amount of dots the target has running.
This literally solves all the issues you said and is a super easy fix that builds off of what is unqiue instead of homoginizing the spec into a bad fire mage.
I don’t think that solves anything. Would it be a more fun playstyle is debatable. Right now with searing nightmare you put sw:p on everything. Shadow needs to be able to get both dots up in a decent time. If you shadow the talent in the boomkin tree that put both moo fire and sun fire on every target between you and your target it would be fine espeally since your apperations spawn on VT targets currently.
The issues I have with shadow are that it takes you the first ten global since a pull to start doing damage and praying on your 4pc procs. If we were in bfa we would have had the essences that helped allocate some of those issues because you would take misery and just cast vt on everything while tank was gathering then erupted and sat in vf for as long as possible to keep chorus stacks up. You would have to use your only real defensive to extend to next pack ext. I feel the shadowlands version is more forgiving. Although I wish mind sear was a longer cast so it wasn’t so annoying to keep searing nightmare going
Even if you could spread dot damage to all mobs with one button, dot damage outside devouring plague is so pathetic. They did the same thing to shadow they did to affliction in order to curb them in council fights, which is they gutted their dot damage and put all their damage on a spender and a cd window.
They need to put damage back into the actual dots or significantly buff mindsear/seed of corruption for both dot specs.
Dot specs suck big time right now. Far more micromanagement than burst direct damage specs, without the reward.
I feel like balance tuning isn’t important to the conversation. You’re correct in that dots tickle mobs, but in shadowlands we don’t have chorus of insanity to buff the dots to crazy numbers with subsequent voidforms.
I’m fine with dots not being meaningful damage. but I want to have my casts hit like an absolute truck to compensate. the point I was trying to make. The current aoe rotation feels clunky, they should just have searing replace mind sear. the talent is really just clunky. although I like what it is designed to do.
Something I forgot to mention in the above post. Shadow needs a damage niche. If they buffed the amount of sanity generation from VT/SW;p. Then we can be a funnel spec that uses mass pulls to ST down a high hp target. or just buff dots till our AoE can compete with destro.
We don’t bring much to a group or raid.
-fort buff brought by the healers
- Power Infusion, feels like a damage cd for us. but in logs it’s used just on whoever is top dps in the raid to get the most bang for the buck out of it. (would like for it to be an lust)
- an interupt on a 45 second cd (30 talented) not very good.
-can talent into a short stun
-Leap of Faith, guess i should include this although its very niche
if our dps isn’t top tier in aoe, ST, or funnel. then you wont ever see them taken to competitive keys. Were squishy and our survival cd, silences us for multiple seconds.