Our Talent Seraphim does not scale at all and will eventually be a DPS loss as we get higher gear. This talent should raise all secondary stats by X% instead of a flat 1007 to make it scale with gear.
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Seraphim will never be a DPS loss.
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You are the reason talents like this make it to live. It’s very easy to understand that as our stats increase seraphim becomes less and less strong because it’s a set amount. 1000 of a stat is huge at ilevel 370 but when you start getting to 420 it’s not as big of a boost.
It becomes a dps loss when you have to give up 2 charges of SOTR which at higher item levels hits hard and is off the gcd. Not to mention the benefits of the other talents in the row.
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Isn’t there always a spell like this every expansion that needs to be reworked to be relevant.
In some later patch 8.x it will take all of the devs allotted time to work on paladins to fix this, and it will be the only change we get that patch
Seraphim is one of the best talents in the game as it raises the skill cap for playing the spec so if I’m the reason for that, that’s cool. ![:slight_smile:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/slight_smile.png?v=6" ":slight_smile:")
Secondary stats aren’t on DR so Seraphim’s value is relatively static throughout the expansion. And SoTR’s damage will never outweigh Seraphim, ever. Seraphim is a ~15% DPS increase compared to other talents on the row.
Seraphim has some problems but this isn’t one of them.
It will always have value to new characters. Sure, it loses its spot as an optimal choice as we gain gear, but for those behind the gear curve, it will be highly valued.
Flat secondary stats scale just fine with gear. +10% crit is worth more when you have 30% haste than when you have 10% haste.
Seraphim gives a flat stat bonus, but that flat bonus is multiplicative not additive. If anything, it’ll gain more value as the expansion goes on; at the moment two SotR charges every 45 seconds is a huge investment, but faster recharge times will soften the blow.
(Now if only they’d take it off the god damn GCD. Popping Seraphim + AW separately feels awful, I absolutely hate it)
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True but i played a Prot warrior so this is like heaven compared to that mess.
Avatar doesn’t have an already built in opportunity cost. Seraphim costs 2 SOTR charges. Avatar is essentially free.
I would compare Avatar to Avenging Wrath which in the situation Pally comes out on top as Wings is better.
Seraphim is just like popping 4 trinkets at once ontop of wings Omegalul. I have enjoyed being OP compared to Prot warrior.