Seems most of the remaining player base are miserable to game with

If that’s how you feel then dont play it, play retail or any other game you enjoy, because enjoyment is the reason to play a game and if you’re not enjoying it then what is the point?

For example I don’t enjoy Retail anymore so I don’t play it any more because most of the RPG elements that many modern plays find as tedious are no longer present and so I am left playing different games.

Does this make retail a terrible game? No, it seems to have an audience who enjoy it and play it and buy the MTX stuff, but that’s not for me.

Blizzard carefully cultivated this player base. Money over quality when it comes to players.

Once there was community, role playing on every server, MY KEY RING GIVE IT BACK, less of a feeling of being faceless and nameless, and generally a better and more intelligent community over all.

Them came the removal of faction requirements for hard dungeons in BC, commercials on TV to draw in the fps type no attention span no patience scum that comprise most of who you run into on a given day now on Azeroth.

It was intentional and now that they’ve realized how bad it was for the game itself in every way but profit, they are stuck designing for a world no one talks to each other in except to be trash.

Welcome to follower dungeons, delves, follower RAID ( what a laugh… If you can’t reach the end game the right way you don’t deserve it - Naxx 40 was the right level of gatekeeping) and other features all designed so you can keep paying for your MMO…
only not so much with that second “M”.

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I tried retail this time around and got bored so quickly…

Like I had max ilvl gear in 3 weeks (other than mythic raids, which I had no interest in doing).

Then realized I was mind-numblingly bored running the same ~4 dungeons (half of them were unplayably annoying) on repeat. I could push Mythic 10+ but… why? There’s no achievement or cosmetic reward, no gear upgrades… Then there’s only one raid lockout (heroic) per week for a single raid because LFR/Normal raids are 100% pointless after the first week.

So after 3 weeks there was just… nothing left I wanted to do.

Factor in the complete lack of social interaction and that makes it even worse.

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WoW has a lot of people that put more hours into their virtual characters than reality. That skews people’s perspectives on life. When you treat a game like it matters more than anything else in life, then it becomes a pathology. People lose their identities and purpose. That’s not good for mental health, and you see it all the time in gaming communities.

Oh great, is “Andy” a pejorative term now, too?

I usually come across nice players on the hardcore server. sorry your experience is different.

It has been for some time. Ive seen it used derisively before TBC launched.

But yea, not sure what OP is on about. Most people I see are having a blast.

HOW DARE YOU MAKE SENSE IN THIS FORUM SIR!! reported to the proper authorities.

I play on Mankrik cluster in Era, and I’ve had a very different experience than what is described in the OP here. I find most players I encounter to be pretty chill and most to be having a good time.

For starters, classic is garbage. People thought blizzard offering a relatively same game back they made years ago would bring back that same since of joy as the first time around. People were wrong. You can’t bring back a 10,15,20 year old version of the game and just expect that you will have that same experience. The nostalgia of playing classic didn’t feel nostalgic enough largely because of the community and the min max mentality. Now if your fine with the game being inherently different then it was all those years ago then great but expect that because it will never be like it was back then. Secondly, many people seem to play wow without enjoyment largely based on an addiction or to fill a sense of completion to a game that can’t be completed. It’s largely why wow, and other mmos, continue to profit while having a good portion of the player base constantly griping. There’s never been a better time to try out another game if you aren’t enjoying this one. There is thousands of games out there you shouldn’t feel an obligation to stay on this one game when there’s so many options. Especially if you spend more time hating the very game your playing.