I use everything under the sun, and while not an elite player, I am a pretty good player. as I mentionned higher in the thread, if you are able to solo Heroic Shadowlands raid, I’d like to know how you do it.
I have seen pet classes and tanks do it with a bit of effort, but Evoker are entirely unable to to my knowledge
At this point you may as well play preservation solo.
pres not very tanky.
Aug gets blistering scales. Just 30% extra armor for yourself (and HUGE absorb shield if talented) every 30 seconds (26 with interwoven threads)
I don’t know how you can say a healer isn’t tanky lol. You can echo a rank 1 dream breath and be completely fine for 20 seconds while you spam damage.
I consider something tanky when it can take a hit instead of just heal it back effectively.
blood dk and vengeance dh in shambles
I agree. I understand they saved a bunch of money by not making new animations for all of the existing races, and not having to make dracthyr animations for the existing classes, but anyone who isn’t a fan of either the new race or new class misses out on the other half of new play options released in this expansion.
I would probably try evoker as a different race, but I can’t get behind playing that derpy looking dragon. Similarly, I’m sure there are a lot of players that would play dracthyr as something like warrior, mage, etc, but don’t like what evoker offers.
The Dracthyr/Evoker problem could have been easily solved if Blizzard did the smart thing with the class.
Instead of having Dracthyr even be its own race, you would pick any race and that would be your Dracthyr’s choice of visage form. Want to be a dwarf? No problem, you’re a “dwarf” evoker that shapeshifts into the Dracthyr form for combat and flies around spitting fire. Think something akin to worgen or druids. And like the Death Knights, you would still start on the Dracthyr island regardless of whether you’re a human, dwarf, troll, etc.
Then you could be like the other dragons in Warcraft and actually have a diverse array of options for your humanoid alternate form. Night elf, tauren, or a gnome like Chromie? You could open it up to allied races too.
The Dracthyr should just be the form you shapeshift into for combat, or out of combat at will. Making it a race tied to the class and sticking players with (in my opinion) hideous visage options was the wrong move. It prevents me from wanting to play the class for sure.
But thats not solo content? They can do SOLO content just fine. I’m sure there are plenty of dps specs that cant solo shadowlands raids. Soloing the last expansions raids should never be a benchmark on whether or not a class is performing.
Dracthyr and dragons arent the same race though, so it makes sense to have different limitations, just saying
Blizzard has complete control of the lore and
the mechanics relating to them. They could have made it so you could be any race (or just Azerothian ones) as an Evoker, but they didn’t. The lore for Dracthyr is very new, and they could have done whatever they wanted to with them, so the lore isn’t a justifiable excuse for poor limits.
You’re only slightly better than a welp. You’re a little dragon.
Lmfao yes lets have them try nothing new at all, make the same specs over and over. Its honesty refreshing that they are adding a support spec to the game … will it be weak in solo content, yeah probably but thats not its place in a checks notes massively MULTIPLAYER rpg.
Prevoker was one of two top healers in pve and pvp for all of season 1 and they’re strong in season 2. So I’m not sure what you’re referring to when you call them weak. Devoker has been kind of middle of the road but they don’t have a ton of trouble finding groups. I switched from a priest main to prevoker in season 1 and did all content. I was always accepted into groups quickly. My only gripe is that their damage is very low for solo content (disc has spoiled me a bit I think), but I now swap to devoker for questing and kill things very quickly.
As others have said, it seems like you just don’t have a great understanding of the class. That’s ok! It takes time to learn a new class, especially one as different from the wow norm as vokers are. There are plenty of guides online you can check out to help you.
Its not poor limits though? Its the same limits they put on worgen. Worgen can only be humans, because thats the way blizzard decided the lore would work, same with evokers. Its just a silly complaint.
If one class can solo it, it’s solo content and it sets the benchmark for others. Or else why should I tolerate playing a class inferior to another in such a way that there is huge chunk of content that cannot be accessed if you are anything else than a few class.
Currently Prot Paladin are the best DPS, the best Healer and the best Tank in game. You cannot tell me it’s wanted or desirable in an MMO.
I just ran a Dire Maul for fun at level 41, and the prot paladin topped all 3 charts in details.
Are we back in WotLK with Protribution Paladins?
The nature of my point is that it would be strictly better to allow players more options for what their evokers can look like. If I were a dragon, or Dracthyr, or whatever, I wouldn’t choose to look like the options that exist for the visage form. I’d choose a tauren or a night elf, but that’s not an option for us.
Is it the end of the world that we don’t have those options? Absolutely not, but it would be better if we had the options.
No, it is previous group content that hasnt been updated to be relevant. It was created for groups in mind. The philosophy is dofferent for group and solo content. Thats like calling dungeons “solo content” because you can run them alone. You sound silly.
Tanks are ALWAYS the first classes to be able to solo raids that are not considered legacy content. That has been the case for over 6 years.
Please keep the discussion relevant to content in which evoker partakes in. IE from level 58-70.
No one cares about a level 41 prot paladin pulling massive dps. Tanks have been top dps in low dungeons for over a decade.
Blizzard shouldn’t need to balance classes around the ability to solo last expacs raids. There will ALWAYS be class gaps in content that isn’t considered legacy and if you really want the transmog from a group for it.
People here are talking about issues doing solo content on the dragon isles or even doing m+ where mail might as well be cloth.