As the title states, I’ve seen it pop up in the chat window before but is there a setting where I am able to see who in the group is marking me or anything else?
Dunno, but if you’re the tank don’t take it off. It’s probably the healer so they can see a) which moving blob of gaudy shoulderpads is the tank, and b) where you are and where you’re going out of the corner of their eye while staring at HP bars.
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Could be DPS too. I always mark the tank. It’s important to me to know where he or she is. Especially in huge packs with stuff that cleaves or does frontals.
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I always mark the tank in M+ whether it’s me or i’m healing him/her. When SHTF in a tough trash/boss fight spending extra seconds to see where the tank is could easily mean life or death.
I knew that there would be a flood of “don’t take it off” replies. That’s not what I asked. Thanks, though.
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go to the chat settings - other - target icons needs to be selected. you will see who is marking.
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Thank you very much! 
I remove marks on my tank. I don’t like having it above my head and I believe it is unnecessary. If players don’t have the awareness to know where the tank is they should work on that. It’s a different story when you are doing MDI probably.
If players don’t have the awareness to know where the tank is, it might be because the tank is a fun-size goblin standing in the middle of 10+ mobs who are all significantly taller, constantly moving around and facing random directions as they attempt to fan out and get repositioned over and over again, and getting spammed with gobs of AOE effects, and the player in question who needs to make the distinction is a healer who’s already playing whack-a-mole with one eye to keep people alive while they invariably stand in the bladestorms, and DDR with the other so they won’t be the one who needs the heal next.
You can ask that healer to look a little bit less at both of those things because the orange circle is itchy and you want them to pick out one specific small dark mass in the undulating pile of death every time it decides to move. Or you can wear your bloody mark so they can see it peripherally and know at a moment’s notice if you need some breathing room, started running to grab more and are getting hit in the back past your avoidance, or pivoted the mobs and accidentally pointed a cone at them.
I don’t especially care if I’m running with guildies because I know their patterns, trust them to be intelligent, and they usually vocalize if they need something. But if I’m pugging with an unfamiliar tank, you’re getting marked. Because even if you’re spectacular, I don’t know that. I have to assume everyone will be an idiot at the worst possible moment and prepare accordingly.
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Heh I love your choice of vocabulary especially ‘undulating pile of death’.
So, as a healer, you need to know where I am because? Are you clicking on my avatar to heal me? That seems pretty bad, like really bad. Are you just a control freak? What possible reason do you need to see where I am? Do you know what mobs do frontal cones? You should. Avoid those. What does it matter if a tank is marked if he isn’t moving the frontal attacks away from the group? Give me one coherent reason you need to mark tanks that isn’t easily dismantled.
Reposition efflo, preferably in a place that gives you room to continue in the same direction. Vortex if you need to kite at a moment’s notice and I have about one second to place it properly before you die horribly. If you unexpectedly spun a mob toward me that does a frontal (bonus points if it’s Rixxa’s trash with all those flamethrowers and force cannons where you already have almost no room to move, and extra bonus if it’s Fort/Grievous). If you ran off to pull something I didn’t expect because it’s not the trash my tanks usually pull. If you ran off to pull something before the previous pull is dead and are about to take a spike in the back. If you move to place Sanguine somewhere I didn’t expect. If you’re generally difficult to see to begin with because you’re short as hell and might be standing against mobs or a floor of similar color even before the blizzards and crap start flying around.
Again, these are all things I can adjust to if I can see it under the pile of sleet and explosions – but unlike DPS I can only spare one eye to do that to begin with. I can do that stuff by reflex with the tanks I know, but you’re not one of them. Even if you’re as good as the ones I usually run with, which is quite possible, I don’t know your specific patterns.
Why is it so onerous for you to have a circle over your head? Are you just that much of a control freak? Because that honestly seems pretty petty compared to someone wanting to help you do your job better and/or maybe not wanting to get a force cannon to the face in the process.
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None of your points would allow me to let you mark me. You have to reposition efflorescence, okay!? Do you know where it is safe to put it? You know tanks can’t always stand in one spot and just tank. This is a commonality for healers and a non issue for good ones.
Are you clicking on my avatar to heal me? If yes we have huge problems to begin with skill wise. If no, why do you need to see me? Makes no sense.
What this comes down to is a situational awareness issue. In arena, marks make sense. Things happen so fast and you can lose a match in very short order.
In M+?? LOL. If we are going to die because you don’t know exactly where I am standing you need to probably do something else.
I don’t like it for a simple reason, I find it annoying to have over my head. Never had an issue with it from good players. I have refused them every season, even this one where I hardly even tank anymore. It is a weird, unnecessary crutch that does nothing for bad players. I like you man, but you haven’t given me any reason to wear a marker.
Are you clicking on my Avatar to heal me? Other party members too? You need to start using key binds. If the answer is no, why do you need to mark me?
Edit: FYI, you should know which mobs have frontal cones AND where they are facing at all times as ANY role.
Just curious. How much do you heal?
Like, what you’re saying makes sense from the perspective of DPS because they’re already looking up there all the time. At worst they need an occasional brief glance at resources.
With healing, it’s the opposite. The bulk of our attention has to be on the frames, and we glance up at the pull enough to stay safe. You aren’t getting continuous eyeball focus – if the pull is even remotely spicy you get a glance at best on the order of maybe a quarter-second while the GCD is spinning. Yes of course we’re healing you by mousing over the frame, if not by leaving you on focus. Duh. But we’re doing that by, you know, monitoring those frames. Tanks and DPS never really see that kind of cognitive split to anywhere near that degree. Anything we can see peripherally is one less thing to have to split our eyes for.
Yes, of course I know what mobs have frontal cones. I also know what mobs randomly target them, and which ones will only be a threat if the tank I’ve never worked with before spins them toward me. And hell, if you pull 2-3 packs at a time (on purpose or accident) I may not be able to visually distinguish which way individual mobs are facing at all.
And as for how fast you die? As a total stranger I don’t even know if you’re properly using defensives in the first place, so that’s a complete crapshoot. As a druid I have to be 2-3 GCDs ahead of all the damage at minimum. If you start heading forward mid-pull, I need to know the moment you start moving because I need to reposition efflo in front of you and stack fresh hots + Ironbark before it reaches you, which takes…about as long as it takes you to get where you were going. If the party took a nasty splash right before, you’re not where my eyes are when you start going. I can’t rely on the vague mob blob moving because they might be stunned or stuck in castbars. I can’t rely on the vague party blob moving because they might be continuing to DPS a mob blob that isn’t moving yet. I need to know when you, specifically, the short black pile of metal I could barely see to begin with, starts booking it away from where you just were.
And ultimately, this comes down to how well you want to get healed. A mark over your head, to you, is an annoyance. I get that – it annoys me when I tank too. To a DPS, it’s marginal at best. But to a healer, yeah, it gives a lot more breathing room than it looks like.
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If the healer wants to mark me, I let him. I like being healed.
It was me. I marked you so I know where to drop efflorecence and also to make sure I stay within LoS.
You could have just asked in party chat.
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