thats how LFR works lol
yeah, make all raids work like that.
Perhaps open your eyes to the bigger picture.
The post was about intent, not murder.
example 1: guy shoots and kills another guy, maybe by accident or self defence.
Ex. 2: Disturbed person opens fire in a mall, intentionally killing people.
I would think there would be different punishements for those two
So, youâre saying removing someone from the group because they donât want the person in that group for any reason is the same as a person using a loaded weapon to kill another person?
Because once again, that is a very bad comparison.
Why would you kick someone for being AFK in remix.
If thereâs a 999% Versa monster who cares.
lmao.
i love when forums devolve into a poorly run high school civics class. middle school, even.
And despite his frantic calls to 911, the police didnât seem interested in responding to TOS violations in his Legion PUG.
boomer alert: unironic, breathless, concern about safe spaces
The only one saying this is you.
The rest of us are using examples to support our arguments.
Thereâs a stark difference between removing one or two people for a legitimate reason and chain removing the entire raid for purposes of screwing over their lockout. If you donât understand that, you have other larger problems to deal with.
It does not matter how many people get removed from the group. There is nothing against the policies.
Sounds like something someone who needs safe spaces would say.
Griefing is clearly listed as a violation of the code of conduct. So I guess it depends on whether or not you consider the behavior being discussed as griefing. I certainly do, and I suspect most people would as well.
What we (us players) would define as griefing is not what Blizzard would define as griefing.
Remember, Blizzard is the one with the final say on what is or isnât a violation, and with what information I have already posted, it isnât defined as a violation, let alone, as griefing.
I donât know if this is really a thing or not. Iâve only been heavily doing mythics and heroics for the last 4 days and all the groups Iâve been in have been pretty cordial. Theyâll summon and most of the time theyâll wait for people at bosses. I donât think Iâve ever come across a raid lead though that laughed maniacally while kicking people.
Just my experience though.
The code of conduct also explicitly states that, âAcceptable behavior is determined by player reports and Blizzardâs decisionâ
So while Blizzard has the ultimate decision, they do base their decisions on player reports. So the correct course of action is for anyone involved to report it.
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Iâll leave you to go ask about that in Customer Support. Iâve already provided the answer, you obviously wonât accept that answer, so Iâll leave that for you to ask in Customer Support forums where one of the Support Forum Agents can fully explain to you about how the policies actually work.
Because reporting is not going to result in any account action if there is no breach of any of Blizzardâs policies, including the In-Game Code of Conduct.
I donât accept that, because the question you asked did not fully explain what the situation was. Furthermore, I think a lone question on the CS board would be adjudicated differently than a large number of in game complaints from affected parties.
My issue with you, is that you are discouraging people from complaining. People should be encouraged to report it, when they feel theyâve been wronged.
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Is that because youâll recieve the same answer Iâve told you?
No, I am telling you how it works. Reporting someone for being removed from the group would lead to no account action taken at all.
Yes, people should be encouraged to report any Code of Conduct violations, removing people from a group, let alone even saying, âenjoy the lockoutâ is not a Code of Conduct violation.
I already explained why in my previous post
And, as youâve already pointed out, its not your interpretation of the code of conduct that matters. Let Blizzard decide, which they canât do unless people report it. Since the code of conduct also says that they base their decisions on player reports, the more reports they get, the more likely they are to take action.