Season of Discovery Phase 3 Content Update Notes

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When are you or other Devs going to reply to existing forum posts regarding issues and complains? if ever? You clearly are active on forums but donā€™t read the current issues? How long will it take you to fix Sheeth of light runeā€¦ are you even aware of the issue? do you care? Cause it appears notā€¦

I donā€™t know if it would make them quit. It would just make them use an alternative method and people complaining about ā€œgate keepingā€ would have zero chance to ever get an invite.

Some groups are willing to roll the dice and just take whatever body they can get to fill a spot. Others are not into having to pay for repairs and waste time on an encounter that is relatively easy but can wipe a raid if the random person ignores mechanics.

As to raid logs not everyone uses them to chase parse and ā€œgate keepā€. Some people actually go through them to see where they are going wrong in their rotationā€¦ or as you said to analyze what went wrong in an encounter.

This gatekeeping thing that the other person was complaining about is one of those things I hear a lot about on the forums. Yet Iā€™ve never seen it on my server. So I guess it must just be some of the other larger servers (or something). Iā€™ve had plenty of random whispers to join Gnomer as an example from the larger ā€œraid guildsā€ on my server and if they were checking logs they would be more like LOLā€¦ I think. Yet Iā€™m still on lockout unless itā€™s ā€œraid dayā€ on two characters.

Can we also get some clarity as to why meta form is now not allowing us to mount up?
Itā€™s obvious that the devs wanted meta to get nerfed (for an undisclosed reason) however, having to manually cancel meta-form before mounting now is just plain stupid.
If youā€™re not going to reinstate soul-link the least you can do is make sure that meta form is not hindering how smooth the class feels to play.
This sucks!

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I am super stoked to see how this plays out!

same, grinded it mostly solo in p1 but as a healer wasnā€™t bad. it wasnā€™t bad because i did it near the end of p1 when there was literally nothing to do. having to do this now on alts would suck. DPS leather bracer was bis by such a huge margin too in p2.

The Mental Dexterity rune should trigger off Stormstrike not Melee hits. This would keep Ele and Resto from having access to it (as it appears is intended). The duration could then be changed back to 1 min so it doesnā€™t fall off during short gaps.

Otherwise you will 100% see Ele/Resto shams in melee with strange degenerate gameplay.

Yeah, Iā€™m wondering how they will put that % boost in.

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As an Ele shaman Iā€™ve resigned myself to degenerate melee caster behavior u_u

You got to be exalted for 2 whole tiers longer than the lazy people, its weird to gatekeep the rep when the method you used is now patched anyway (no more 10 man premades) and new items are being introduced that will most likely powercreep the pvp rewards.

Being exalted rep in pvp isnt really the accolade you think it is either, if your goal is to show off how good you are at pvp then you should just pvp, people will naturally recognise you and your name without the need to brag about how youre exalted wsg. Personally ive never judged someones skill in a positive light based off their rep.

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Bring back GDKP

Double nerf to AP and forced to used WF that has less value from less AP and less AP value from rockbiter weapon overall/ way of the earth. I lost roughly 1000 AP with this change if you play there intended way along with one shock ability every 6 second. Seems like a significant nerf. Iā€™m really convinced no one has played the shaman and tested the difference and maybe they clicked lava lash once and said looks good.

ooh im excited for this phase!

It is a result of not having a ptr or beta in any regard. Even internal ptr and testing doesnt seem to be happening. It is likely the reason why enhance became so overtuned p2 and why the paladin shockadin push is so extreme. The fact that I can log in and press lava lash one time to see that the damage is not ā€œrelatively the sameā€ like they post in the patch notes is very indicative of lazy development.

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Thereā€™s nothing gatekeeping about it. Literally anyone could have done the same grind to get their WSG rep up. Itā€™s a slap in the face to those of us who did it to just hand it to everyone now. Whatā€™s the point of PvP rewards if you donā€™t have to PvP to get them?

Its nowhere near as easy to hit exalted now, used to be able to do it in a weekend but they removed 10 man premades vs pugs. Farming exalted now is not the same as farming exalted back in p1.

ā€œGatekeeping is the activity of trying to control who gets particular resources, power, or opportunities, and who does not.ā€

By being upset by the change, i can only assume you dont want people hitting exalted without premading pvp (which as previously stated is no longer as optimal as it was when you did it since it has changed) and by definition that is gatekeeping sinces theres no logical person willing to solo queue grind out the rep in p2.

I love this feedback!

The whole ā€œsuper reasonableā€ thing here - I want to make sure when Iā€™m replying Iā€™m doing so in furtherance of a discussion rather than trying to overwrite your point with my own, as I think you are correct. There are a few reasons I think that these corrections may be occurring with HOH MAH GAWD level magnitudes.

  1. Waylaid supplies for me didnā€™t feel so much unrewarding in general at the get-go so much as they just sucked to deal with - the ā€œUniqueā€ property was obnoxious, and sure you could turn them in empty or full, but it really came down to handling the boxes themselves that kinda sucked. ā€œUniqueā€ felt arbitrary, there werenā€™t really labels on them at first, and the fact that thereā€™s not really any way to instantly ship between alts meant you had to tap some stranger on the shoulder in Thunder Bluff and hope you didnā€™t get layered after the logout, wait the hour, or bug a relative/friend/guildie to come help out. Itā€™s 2024, can we please figure out a way to share? Aggrend is posting about how WoW with a guild is better, can we work on some of the support structures to facilitate guild-level economies and sharing? So I think the course correction - to make it feel rewarding was great at firstā€¦ ā€¦and then wore out real fast. That I am not OK with. The rep was the reward to a large extent, and the gold bonuses for a lot of folks just were ways to funnel gold through the AH. Which is a great way to get sales tax, but it also means weā€™re sending money to people we donā€™t know, quickly, before the rewards change again, or get completely turned offā€¦
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  2. If you change a number somewhere, put it in patch notes ahead of time, please - there have been a couple of times where things like mount prices (And I totally checked first or second day) were set at or around 50g. That was different than the 100g that mounts cost back in the day, but, weā€™d never really talked about it. SoD is seasonal, itā€™s supposed to be alt-friendly, so I had that expectation, as did others I know. Doesnā€™t mean itā€™s right - no one had ever promised me anything. But if something changes price like thatā€¦
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  3. Iā€™m gonna throw in here Gnomer crafting. The quests were obnoxious, farming the mobs sucked, and I ended up dropping a profession because of my threat. I needed gear, badly - there were no shields for warriors in the raid either. Now everythingā€™s on fire-sale, which is great, butā€¦ ā€¦raiding is expensive.
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  4. WSG had been cut in half already, and had a weekly 1k rep quest, so if you just paid attention, you could ride it out. And I actually found out I liked playing PvP in WSG. I was an Alterac Valley guy. And the WSG bracers werenā€™t, IMO, Ashenvaleā€™s only repercussion. And - donā€™t get me wrong here - I donā€™t know how to fix this thing either, but on Wild Growth, weā€™re PvE. So thereā€™s no balancing of factions, so STV kind of feels like a copout, especially when the Bloodmoon lifts, and the first thing that happens is the Horde are just culled. At the end of the day, it was just something that I ground to avoid doing other content.
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    So yeah, I felt you on everything, points were well-made. Just kind of came down to a consistent pattern of Expectation set ā†’ Expectation Violated ā†’ No real apologies, but gold and loot rains from the skies for days and everyoneā€™s unhappy.

-Horse

Iā€™m pretty sure itā€™s going to be like Execute(1.25x damage) and have a flat value as well (Ex.: Rank 1: 160), particularly from how theyā€™ve phrased it (as opposed to a flat bonus like Heroic Strike.) which is more consistent with Wrath and later versions of the game.

This would all be modified by your stance and other multipliers, so Dprot Def: 1.495x, Fury: 0.8x

-Horse

Right now Iā€™m seeing normal values plus the 2x block value. Any other scaling will be discovered in time i guess.

Noice! :grinning: :grinning: :grinning:

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