If you pugged you already have to do that when pushed especially on the last boss in groups that don’t already overgear the content.
Running OOM casting spells more than twice as expensive for half the healing isn’t actually fun in practice as many more priests are about to discover. Serendipity and Strength of Soul really should have done more like make related spells more efficient.
If priests run OOM as fast as everyone else it’ll just mean healing in SoD is generally unfun for everyone. I’d rather they bumped up everyone else’s efficiency.
It does over twice as much healing as PoM, but it also costs over 3x as much mana.
Even a Mage has solo healed BFD, but only because their group was so insanely geared it didn’t matter that they went OOM in less than a minute.
Hunter pets needed nerfs it’s kinda dumb how i can leave my pet on aggressive and go stealth somewhere and watch it solo so much players. Give hunters more damge and pets less imo.
Maybe I’m bad for feeling like my shaman is the best healer in the game, feels far easier and more consistent than my priest. I can clear 3-4 bosses without drinking on the shaman if the group is good. I unlocked dual wielding just to run tests and pump raid mana even higher.
Not claiming to be any kind of authority on healers, although it isn’t that complicated. I will post some shaman math later in it’s own thread when I can it all sorted out. I found that even as a resto shaman rockbiter is giving more mana than BFD mana oil, rage is just that strong. Chain heal is going to be insane.
terrible mistake’, How are we outperforming when the new meta is Priest are now just a support classes casting next to no heals, just cast homunculi and you are good to go, what a joke, as it seems no one is casting POM, COH in my opion is just bad, Penance is the only spell we have to look forward too and you go and nerf it by 20%… I now Hate playing my priest, I quit…
Can we look at the insane scaling warriors are about to have and apply balances there if we are doing pro-active nerfs?
Devs, please. Hunters aren’t even performing that well in PvE. Pets just scale incredibly well at this level. They always have, runes or not. Pets have always been able to tank dungeons at 25. It’s just more noticeable now because they have a full taunt. Pets have always been able to solo other players in PvP at 25. it’s just more noticeable because we’re all forced into a big kill box rather than just out leveling this bracket. As we get to higher levels we are going to see hunter pets drop off a lot even with the existing scaling you’ve added. Don’t over nerf like this. Just wait for next phase to see how things play out. I thought you guys preferred taking a slow approach to balancing but now I’m watching my favorite spec get beat up in a back alley because flavor of the week players prefer MM and we can’t balance PvP separately from PvE.
I just really don’t want to have to play MM again in Vanilla to be competitive, and this is not giving me a good feeling for that. I was hoping we’d see some even crazier meta change ups in SoD.
Instead of nerfing BM so people play MM instead, can you just make BM more involved? use TBC kill command, maybe even go crazy and give us Legion abilities like multi shot pet cleave and double pets. Add Dire Beast and Dire Command, maybe even stampede later on. Get crazy with it and give me the melee BM tank spec I’ve wanted since Legion.
Do you mean carry 4 weapons and swap them around to benefit from both? Hot damn why didn’t I think of that. Resto Shamans are being slept on. Spam rain and rage and overload for tank’n’spank.
My only itch is overload has got to be better than dual wield, especially with chain heal, but rage is great for the group.
I have a shaman and priest, I think priest was still better before the nerfs, but DW rockbiter + SR is a huge mana cooldown, so mana wise shaman may be the best after priest is nerfed if they start casting less efficient spells a lot more often.
In terms of raiding, shaman also were a huge benefit to a priest not just because of the small amount of Shamanistic Rage mana they give to others, but because healing stream totem and healing rain can make PoM bounce faster.
Healing rain is kind of annoying as a party target heal though. I think it’s odd to leave it party target given its a small radius and it has this big animation everyone can see for 10 seconds. Also it spam immune text when there are totems in its area with scrolling combat text.
Overload not working on LHW is also weird and should be changed.
I haven’t bothered to do that I just dw and use rockbiter. If I had the epic staff or something I was going to make a weapon swap macro, but I’ll probably never get it since I won’t roll on it over other casters and I still haven’t even seen one drop.
You don’t have to use dual wield spec to dw. DW spec is a rune, but you also get DW as a skill and can dual wield without any specific rune equipped. You get DW as a skill when you do the lava lash unlock.
I never bothered doing that because I would never equip the lava lash rune in a million years, so I basically wasted 18 g unlocking dual wield when I didn’t need to? haha, serves me right for not season of discovering it all on wowhead first.
Thanks for the info that is awesome, and I respect the staff thing for dps casters.
Rain spamming immune is awful, my favorite comp is shaman+priest both being very powerful single target healers makes the raid feel unstoppable for 1 tanking everything/suicide tanking akumai.
I’ll literally switched to chimera last week it does more damage than beast mastery when your geared out anyways so yes it was unneeded nerfs but why we crying?
I actually did this same exact thing. I have all runes unlocked on my shaman and lava lash was the very last one I unlocked since I assumed DW spec enabled DW and didn’t realize it didn’t until I bought DW spec and couldn’t equip another weapon lol.
I agree wholeheartedly with this statement, although perhaps the CoH nerf being included is more cautionary, it’s just a bit behind Wild growth as it is.
Wild Growth though, is, like the name suggests, a wild growth, a tumor one might say on the spec.
Currently Restorations raid performance solely due to Wild Growth is overshadowing actual issues with the spec (much like Starsurge for balance in particular for PvP).
I would much prefer outlier abilities like this be appropriately tuned and allow for actual class balance to occur, than continue with singular OP abilities taking precedence.
To hell with these devs. I don’t even play Hunter in SoD and I’m fed up with the constant nerfs. They’re not even top dps and that’s all they do. What trash.
It’s kind of dumb pvp problems bring pve nerfs. Seriously they can’t figure out how to make pets do less damage on players only? ffs. All these changes seem to be driven by anecdotal evidence and people complaining on the forums and not data driven at all.
