Season of Discovery Class Tuning - January 11

Sounds like you should buff the other healers then. Lazy change.

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Im really beginning to hate pvp in this game. Like these devs cater to the pvp crowd and make everything harder on everyone! Who wins when hunters do less damage in a raid? Not us. Who wins when there is less healers to pug with? Not us.

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Once hunters figure out how to play MM, the whole anti hunters will be complaining how MM are too Over power .

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Going to doubt that friend.
Starsurge has a max damage of I believe ~198 at 25 (it’s 190 something can’t remember the exact, but 8 is high for the range anyway), it has a damage coefficient of 1.0, and I’m going to round up 120 spell power from gear which I believe is unattainable (but relatively close) and take into account BFD boon.
Even with all that and the crit modifying talent and assuming it crits, max damage output is like 608 before resistances, mitigations, absorbs etc.

A fully BiS Starsurge may be one-shotting low level mages with a lucky crit, but it’s definitely not the average situation.
The base damage is like 162-198 or 168-192, and we have to take into account spell power gear is almost non-existent outside of BFD, so most people won’t have much, if any.

Outside of total gear discrepancies (or people just running full glass cannon) it should really only be doing ~20-35% depending on if it crits or not or has any partial resist.

Honestly though, I don’t think it needs the 1.0 coefficient, I’d personally like to see it dropped, see it also scale off Nature damage, and then see compensation elsewhere to prop the class up.
Starsurge is always going to be a problem when it’s got a great spell power coefficient, fix it now along with the rest of the spec that is still underperforming.

I don’t want Druids sitting in the dirt just because Blizzard can’t scale one spell properly that it causes people to have toxic interactions with it.

The devs hear you and they have decided to nerf Hunters Heart of the Lion so Paladins can feel superior next phase.

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Hunters are going to absolutely SEETHE LOL

Blizz intentionally scuttling SoD because they don’t want to make classic+ and instead feed us all into retail and MoP

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Or you know
go back to FFXIV when the new expansion drops.

You see the new Painter Mage they’re adding? Pretty cool if you ask me.

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There is a certain
 DRAW to it for sure.

Void plague Does the most damage with wand as a close second.
That being said if the target is immune to Disease as well
 Good luck.

Yep, like Mechanical enemies.

What’s the new raid again?

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cause there was no PTR for SoD

Time to give in and swap to Warrior or Rogue, it’s clear where this is heading. Or you know, quit.

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Warriors are gonna be disgustingly strong after this phase this was the phase they were supposed to be at their weakest. lol look how well that worked out.

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I just realized that this is only phase 1 and BM hunters are no where near their full talent tree . No where near their full potential into the BM talents . So, Blizzard wants to nerf BM hunters before they can actually do anything. Like nerfing cat before they can use their claws . Dog without teeth . A snake without poison. A spider without it’s web .

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Thats not even the funniest part. Warriors are stastically really weak at low level and really strong at high level for hunters its reversed. Really strong at low level and at high level they scale very poorly. Yet Warriors top the charts this phase and Hunters NERF NERF NERF. I am losing faith.

Edit: About 20% faith in SoD to be exact but details.

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Priest main, excited about the PoM/Penance nerfs because now we’ll have a reason to use normal heals instead of just waiting for rune ability cds. They were overpowered and a nerf was good.

However circle of healing I don’t think deserves a nerf. It is way too costly for the amount done, its current state is just right.

Also Wild growth should be nerfed imo because it is broken, even more overpowered than the priest rune abilities.

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Ok, so where are the buffs to our “main spells”? Chimera Shot and Explosive Shot are glove runes. So is Beast Mastery. No one is going to start using CS and ES over BM, because CS and ES are both still trash. So where’s the compensation?

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Why do hunters need to be compensated?

They arent they are just being cute with the wording hoping nobody would notice they did but they tried it.

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