Season of Discovery Class Tuning Incoming - March 5

[Asma-mankrik]

SOCKS!
I mean Kaivax - thanks for the updates.

[Graou-terokkar]

Can you please turn the aura of Heart of the Lion into a book spell and leave the rune as a 10% stat increase?
This won’t change the already top performing hunter spec while giving hunters a reason to play other chest runes like lone wolf.

This is truly my most wanted change for hunters. I’m so done being forced into the same chest rune in raids.

[Typhoria-lone-wolf]

@Redheadchild-kul-tiras

It doesnt scale at all.

It has base damage per rank and thats it.

I could have 1 rap, or 10000000 rap, it will do the same damage.

Serpent and Arcane Shot scale decently with spell power… but not really useful given itemization.

[Zlexak-crusader-strike]

Melee hunter has only had nerfs, not buffs. And that rune will continue to not be used by anyone, so buffing it doesn’t matter

[Terminalhate-crusader-strike]

Damage is already out of control and these classes are getting BUFFED?

Every single class in the game needs to have their damage output REDUCED.

[Fayld-wild-growth]

This (along with the generally lackluster runes everywhere) makes me think there is no direction for the rogue on the dev team. It has also become abundantly clear that the real reason for making Mutilate 40 energy is because no one on the dev team has any idea what they are doing with the class and panicked when someone actually did the raw math on just how awful a state the class was going to be in for P2.

So basically the direction is reroll, unsub, tank badly, or pray you have a guild willing to bring you to raids. Oh, but I guess we can also use quick draw and between the eyes to accomplish…something. I look forward to the Blue post that says something along the lines of “we have reworked quick draw and now it awards 2 combo points.”

[Anaric-illidan]

And even after the raptor strike nerf - melee hunter is still 2nd overall in performance. Oh noooo. Totally gutted and all fun removed…

[Lethlis-bloodsail-buccaneers]

I was already happy with how my marks hunter was doing after I made the shift to chimera shot.

Now I just flat out do more damage than before.

[Bleedingme-living-flame]

Salivating that second change for paladins as ret in phase 3, since 11/0/30 is probably going to be the base pve spec in phase 3.

Overall very good buff to prot and som ret’s.

[Gilgamesh-moonrunner]

@Anaric-illidan

And even after the raptor strike nerf - melee hunter is still 2nd overall in performance. Oh noooo. Totally gutted and all fun removed

Still 2nd by going from a build where the hunter had the power to a build where 50% of the damage comes from the pet again. People wanted to get away from using the pet for everything all the time but that is where the class is stuck. No tree besides BM is really viable again.

[Beefybros-crusader-strike]

Let me be biased with my class calm down. I’m calling for the improvement of all classes in need in my comment as well. Do not let them divide and conquer us

[Môardôts-wild-growth]

@Bleedingme-living-flame

Overall very good buff to prot and som ret’s

Not a prot ability but ok.

“40% weapon damage to your target, but you lose health equal to 10% of the damage inflicted.”

[Revir-living-flame]

@Kaivax

Warrior

• Devastate damage increased to 150% of weapon DPS (was 100%), before being increased by number of Sunder Armor stacks.

So, devastate will hit for 60, instead of 40, wow… That will really keep up with people doing 500+ DPS…

Can you keep slapping prot warriors in the face? We will still go Endless rage, so we can get enough rage to actually do damage for threat.

[Hamstar-draktharon (Hamstar)]

@Anaric-illidan

melee hunter is still 2nd overall

Your info is out of date.

@Anaric-illidan

Regardless, Chimera shot + Chimera shot sting are 30 - 40% of current ranged hunter DPS

That is absolutely false. It is about 18% of the top hunters dps (12% from CS and 6% from the SS proc). Also you should look at “top melee hunters”, they are #5.

[Blayser-moon-guard (Blayser)]

@Courtnie-emerald-dream

Every time you update, you refuse to even touch the main core issues of the class. Now, with this update Paladins are going to have to do a very specific build thats very specific to a playstyle that will still do meh damage overall. I dont even want to theorycraft this or even put the time in as its just not worth it anymore because you dont read our countless paladin threads. You dont take anything to heart. You just do what you want thats the complete opposite of what paladins are needing.

Aggrend finally got the Jackhammer and realised how bad rets still are, so ofc its a buff to the meme build.

[Môardôts-wild-growth]

@Courtnie-emerald-dream

Every time you update, you refuse to even touch the main core issues of the class. Now, with this update Paladins are going to have to do a very specific build thats very specific to a playstyle that will still do meh damage overall.

Especially when we lose out of great tanking toolkit abilities like avenger’s shield and divine storm for AoE mob management and get stuck in builds that aren’t even protection tree.

[Courtnie-emerald-dream]

Dude saw a streamer use it, get higher than normal damage and thinks “OH HEY THE CLASS IS FINE!” and then continues to tweak that specific build. Meanwhile the entirety of the class is “If you dont have this item and these exact runes you wont do anything” which even then is terrible. Ive resorted to raid logging now as prot. I am so utterly disappointed I now know how it feels to have a child in theater arts.

[Bleedingme-living-flame]

You do know prot palys run SoM right? In fact it synergizes well with their glove rune.

[Sugarfree-crusader-strike]

Yep Blizzard HATES ROGUES NOW APPARENTLY. and can’t get enough hunter *****

[Môardôts-wild-growth]

@Bleedingme-living-flame

You do know prot palys run SoM right?

Single target ability vs. AoE ability. Seems like tanks should have abilities that aggro mobs not just a single target ability that actually makes you lose your health and put strain on your healers.

“40% weapon damage to your target, but you lose health equal to 10% of the damage inflicted .”