Don’t call me Shirley.
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First off do you know how much honor it takes to grind out ALL of the honor gear? Oh and then you have to do it again to rank up each piece of conquest gear as well. Second the honor gear is only 285 in PvP. Also getting ONE m12 done gets you a 298 piece in your vault. Grinding honor gear gets you nothing in your vault. Not sure why your are comparing PvP ilevels to M+ because one only works in PvP the other every where. And as you pointed out, honor gear can’t be made into tier where any piece of mythic gear no matter the ilevel can be.
The other thing to point out as far as spamming m2s, is the point of that comment is some one can do a m12+ and then just spam m2s for valor to upgrade any m2 pieces to m12+ level. Either way, PvP gear does and 100% should work different than PvE gearing. They tried to make it to similar with the gear ranks which only caused more issues. But being limited to one piece of gear per (zero week one if you wanted weapon) doesn’t feel good.
Clearly they need to start charging an hourly rate to play instead of a monthly subscription.
World PvE is super hard and very rewarding… can’t remove the challenge.
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The thing is that isn’t the case currently. Right now Last Season players are ahead for weeks because they have Tier carrying over. So new players or Alts have to wait weeks just to acquire their Tier set to compete with Last Season.
Never before has last seasons gear put players ahead in the next season like this because of Tier. If players could upgrade honor gear this wouldn’t be the case (maybe they should still be able too) However this change does fix new players or Alts being able to get Tier to compete with last Season players now and try new builds.
Finally I’d like to say it should be like this ALL the time. Players should be getting geared in 2-3 weeks to try Builds, Alts and different play styles. It just gets players enjoying something new or fun so they play longer.
Thanks for listening and making adjustments though! You can see how it is indeed appreciated.
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Yes. I went from 0 to fully upgraded honor geared by Thursday last week. 60 Monday night.
It is stupid to have to upgrade the conquest gear and I fully agree with you on it not feeling good to be limited. I’m 100% glad the cap is unlocked now as I’m happily home and not working so will be fully cq geared by like Thursday next week gatekeeping challenger 2, but:
Is 100% false. One m12 would not give you the m+ rating needed to upgrade anything, if you even got a drop. I got gloves from a 7 that I can’t even upgrade to 282 because that requires 600 m+ rating and I have only done the same 2 mythics 4 times (with a grand total of 1 piece of gear given to me by someone else).
Having valor and no mythic rating means nothing. So this hyperbole of supremely geared people who “just spammmed m2 to get fully geared” is a dumb argument because it is so obviously proved to be not possible. That’s why I said his take is fried. Because it is.
The cap being removed is great, but these fried takes of “every pve player has fully mythic raid and is 304+ geared now” are dumb.
Well, you can omit a ring, another conq piece or two you’ll get along the way, two legendary slots, and crafted ring, but then you don’t even have to upgrade it fully. Just get the initial pieces purchased and enchanted, distribute honor evenly and just kind of go from there.
Here’s hoping they disable tank specializations in Solo Shuffle.
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Can’t believe we not only got a blue post on the arena forums but it’s also about fantastic adjustments to the season. Thank you.
Great change
Really great changes guys keep it up just started playing again after like a year off. Catch up is awesome and this is really nice.
Thank you for this change!
I voted for it because of how aids I thought it’d be.
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Doesnt gear scale up at lower ratings too? Any way I’m just saying pvp is definitely the way to go if youre not a mythic raider. Can get a full set of +15 gear super easily and quicker than farming mythic dungeons and you actually have choice over stats.
The valor and mythic score requirement for upgrading gear is tedious, conquest is a much better system
YAYY!!! More PvP gap
First of all, thank you and great change!
Second, I disagree with the above. A huge power gap is already an existing problem when people who enjoy playing alts later into the season or are starting the season late are already suffering far behind when starting. This problem isn’t new. The only difference is now the under-geared person actually has a path to catching up.
If anything this PROMOTES a more competitive environment earlier in the season because people can now get a full set of gear on their own time and not be behind those who have gotten lucky with their vault every week down the line and now have 3-4+ extra pieces of conquest gear more than other players(especially if they have been able to get 3 vault options every week when another player hasn’t been able to get even 1 due to a busy irl week or two).
Putting in the time and work to get rewards is far greater than waiting for a long period of time to get hopefully lucky with rewards each week, imo. People just want to compete and actually play the game on an even playing field in the arena (even if there’s an upfront grind because an end is in sight), instead of wait months and months to finally catch up to those who have gotten luckier before them.
Good change.
You would need to disable All rewards then. If Tanks can’t get the reward because they can’t Que then there needs to be no reward. All specs need equal opportunities at gear.
You can’t eliminate a spec from being able to complete Quest or attain rewards. That makes no sense in any world.
There is nothing better than Tank PvP and we need that juicy gear like everyone else 
Wonderful and reasonable changes! Thank you!
How does one earn conquest after the dailies are finished ?
The BG’s only give like 15 conquest per win no ?
Queue ranked with bad gear! The more people queueing the faster it’ll inflate right?
Weekly quests and daily wins.