Season 4 PvP Update: Removing the Conquest Cap and Spoils of War

Awwww no thank you

They have the respec button.

Actual pvp is better. Tank pvp is just abusing poorly designed and broken mechanics to make others miserable.

Im so happy about this, i was really hoping something like this would happen. Now just make the 375 Conquest boxes available aswell lol

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I get your example, but that is not what I am referring too. People that spam M_+ will have 600 rating quite quickly. People had 2k like in the first week. I am comparing how if you only PvP to how if you only do M+. Not if you do a few m+ here and there. So my example wasn’t false. With the valor cap being removed, once some has a there 600 rating in m+ they can spam twos for valor and gear and upgrade it with no limits.

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600 let’s you upgrade to 282, still 3 ilvls below maxed honor gear.

The conquest cap being removed is great, but people come in here about some hypothetical boogeyman who is KSM day 1 and runs mythic raids with perfect rng coming in to run the combatant bracket with their maxed pve ilvl.

I’ve spent more hours running mythics than I’d care to (I enjoy the people or I’d never do them) and I have 1 piece from it that I’ve maxed at 282 (due to my m+ rating being 600).

Lets remove the enlightened repo grind as well

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So you spent 2 hours doing 4 runs at the average dungeon clear rate of 30 minutes a pop and that was to much effort? Honestly by the time you did a lvl 8-10 run in every dungeon you would have enough pieces, valor, and m+ rating to upgrade further then 282 :man_shrugging:

It takes around 15-20 hours to full grind the honor gear to 285, depending on how many wins you are getting and if you maximize the time spent on getting the weekly / daily rewards at the same time.

I mean, those were two different posts, in between which I ran more mythics to get the 600 mlvl which took more dungeons. It’s also not that its so much effort it’s just not what I’d prefer to be doing. I’d much rather pvp, and now with no cap next week I’ll just be doing pvp anyway.

Even when honor gearing, at least I’m playing a mode I’d prefer to play while getting to choose my gear at the same time.

If I did what you said I’d get a rating around 1000 and be able to upgrade to 285, same as honor level.

I have a druid that I hit 60 on last night and in 10 hours played (at least 2 afk) hes 276 pvp ilvl. How would I have gotten a fresh 60 into mythic 8-10s to run enough to get the drops etc?

I’m glad the cap is gone, I’ll be fully geared next week on probably both characters. I’m just saying it’s a disingenous argument to claim the season was ruined in 9 days because somehow the hypothetical pve player could just go “spam m2s” and have every piece the wanted at 300+ ilvl and destroy us all.

With an uncapped conquest cap I’d have a full set in a night

Just go back to wraths system. One level of honour. One level of conquest. Conquest requires rating to buy main parts. Ezpz fixed

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Nah rating reqs are bad. The system they have in DF is the right one.

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Wrath having the highest pvp participation says otherwise

Not much else to play in 2008 friend. Go play Wrath classic and let us have no rating reqs in DF thanks.

Edit: I’d also argue a big part of Wrath’s appeal was Frozen Throne lore and general class design more than the pvp gearing system. xd

Tell me you’re bad without telling me you’re bad

Never had an issue getting the rating I wanted, you sound pretty hurt though.

https://check-pvp.fr/us/Zul’jin/Bubblex why are you calling people bad ?

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Because I can? Even with my trash play that’s near max level pvp gear. Which says a lot

I didn’t claim I was god tier. Just claimed they were trash.

but they are higher xp than you ?

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And yet they’re still complaining Which makes them trash. Pretty simple

Well the problem is the best PvP ring in the game is on AH. So incentivizing PvP players to buy Tier and BoE off AH to compete isn’t good. So with good RNG and buying 304 item lvl off AH (which makes a huge difference) It wasn’t good having conquest be capped.

Now PvP players can just PvP for BiS gear instead of buying gold for gear.