The coffee keys don’t reset
Season 2 bountiful delve chests give you 639 ilvl gear, 649 from vault.
M+2, which are endlessly farmable, drop 639 ilvl gear as an end of dungeon reward and give 649 vault.
Coffer keys aren’t as special or important as you’re making them out to be.
https://loot.ghostopera.org/assets/wow-season-2.png?1740410702
u get 4 + maybe 2 a week.
Er mah gerd. You mean the cries about delves ruining M+ permanently for the foreseeable future aren’t to be believed? Color me shocked.
A full season of pearl clutching comes out as a wash? This simply can’t be!
Except for everyone that knew it would work out and knew that M+ was the culprit that needed adjustments.
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Having done 2 T8 bountifuls this week the coffer chest yielded S1 loot. However I did pick up S2 crests. I wasn’t getting exp for Brann either, except for on Tuesday when I tried a delve then and managed to get some exp. Seems odd?
Hey Fair – That is what I was afraid of… I also got crests but it was the weathered ones which are the lowest levels.
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Yeah, sorry brother to be the bringer of that news! Also, the world would radiant echoes are season dependent too. So the souls in Undermine will require S2 exploration/procurement. (If you weren’t already aware).
If you’re dead set on maximizing these S1 currencies gl! I don’t know if I have the division one right now to farm bountiful delves just to expend my 30-something keys.
I have already max S1 – and since Blizz is not very clear on communications - I thought I’d get some perspectives on the forums.
I do appreciate your info and no apologies necessary – It just saves me time…I’ll go watch a scary movie. I got the new Dracula on the list so might as well enjoy the frights on the night. 
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I think they should remove coffer keys entirely since they now only match M+2 in value.
Limiting bountiful delves to 4 a day is sufficient without a key system on top. The more valuable maps are already limited weekly now.
idc one way or another. so long as i can get my mogs im good
So I have to do every single weekly quest to get keys again and again and again.
why?
why is your design so bad?
It is the death of alts
Delves were ok, it was really ok until you take a s.h.i.t on it blizzard.
There are 11 ways to get keys per week (Awakening the Machine, Spreading the Light, Theater Troop, Spider Weekly, Urge to Surge, 5 x Special Assignments, Weekly Pinnacle) and you only need to do 4. Their design is fine. You have plenty of options.
I can run infinite amount of m+ but only four bountiful delves is a design flow?
They are afraid of ppl may not run enough m+ if the delves are a good option.
- They wanna slow down the season pass track thing. why? who cares?
And for mains it is ok, but what about alts? Why do I need to run the same quests over and over and over again?
Don’t tell this is an mmo, the repetitiveness is like a blob atm.
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You get 4-6 keys per week. That’s 4-6 drops. In order to get that many drops from m+, you’d have to run 10-15 keys.
That’s a design choice. Limited guaranteed drops versus unlimited not guaranteed drops. Delves gear up slower but require much less time played. I can easily do 4 delves on multiple alts in the time it would take to pug 10 keys on just one.
The keys will be irrelevant in a couple weeks once you get full champion anyway. At that point, it’s all about vault and crests.
If you’re that impatient then maybe you should do m+. It might be a better fit for you than delves.
That’s very highly unlikely. You are doing 4 delves in 30 mins? How? Delve 1-4?
It takes around 2 hours to get 4 coffer keys and run 4 t8 delves. If you’re pugging keys as a dps, it’ll take many more hours per week to find a group for and complete 10 dungeons.
And two hours is not long? 
Delves are supposed to super casual. That was my point. If that is ok with you, fine by me.
In fairness, before the expansion launched, Blizzard was heavily promoting delves with social media posts like “Only have 15 minutes? Run a delve!”. They definitely didn’t stick to that post launch, that’s for sure. I’d be fine with a bit of a difficulty increase if it meant completing higher tiers faster.
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2 hours spead out over an entire week is too much for you? I, personally, would find another game if I was you. I wouldn’t pay a sub for a game I played less than 8 hours a month.
good for you then.