40 minute livestream, 5 mins spent talking about a single dungeon, 1 passing mention of the new raid, 1 passing mention of pvp balance. What the heck is going on here? Half an hour devoted to explaining these bizarre new solo endgame systems (with screenshots that looked like they were from a browser or mobile game)? I thought the pillars of Warcraft were questing, dungeons, raids, and pvp, but none of those seem to be the focus of shadowlands. What is going on?
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Dungeons, raids, pvp are a given, the rest of the systems are the variable, that’s why they talk more about them.
What are they supposed to say about a raid? Here’s a raid, you’ll do it.
Raids are better tested than talked about.
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Ya, I kept thinking “Where’s the MM in this MMORPG expansion?”
It sounds a lot like garrisons 2.0
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They were literally just talking about the upcoming systems that we’ll be testing. We already know about dungeons and raids, they aren’t new. They don’t need to talk a lot about them.
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They spent like 10 minutes talking about vampire tea parties though? What is going on? Is wow about vampire tea parties now? Why are we getting vampire tea parties instead of more than 8 dungeons? How about a new battleground?
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I wouldn’t mind a new battleground, but people have been barking up that tree since MoP
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It’s been 16 years, how many more years before people realize blizzard BARELY cares about pvp.
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They never even mentioned playing with other people. Is this all solo content? Am I just going to be hosting solo vampire tea parties in Shadowlands? Seriously, after watching that livestream I feel like I’m losing my mind.
We’ve already realized this.
Who cares? this game has always been extremely solo friendly from the beginning.
The mm in mmorpg for wow has always come from mostly structured group content (outside of wpvp, which was always an unbalanced mess)
Then why dose blizzard spend millions a year on arena tournaments?
You think they don’t make a crap ton more off those?
Do you not realize how much they make in sponsorships and advertising? They’re spending money to make money.
what exactly do you want them to mention about “playing with others” that you don’t already know? Torghast is 1-5 players, dungeons are 5 players, raids are 10-30 /20 players. bam, there’s your part about playing with others.
the tea parties for the Venthyr will play as much of a role as the soul gardening of the Night Fae, the NPC gladiator fights of the Kyrians, and the build-a-bomination workshop of the Necrolords. and that is just a single part of the covenant campaign you will be doing.
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I care because there is an obvious cost to dev resources being allocated to vampire tea parties. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that the expansions with the most complex solo content (MoP, WoD, SL) launched with the fewest dungeons. Dev resources are zero sum, time spent on vampire tea parties is time not spent on dungeons, battlegrounds, and raids. And given how the “new gameplay systems” introduced with BfA were abandoned before the expansion was even concluded (looking at you islands and war fronts), I think it is fair to wonder why Blizzard keeps trying to reinvent the wheel rather than just giving us more of what works: dungeons, raids, and pvp.
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I disagree.
are you being a baby right now?
it sounds like it
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Because this game is a game full of different types of people, always has been. You have to hit the solo player and the raider, and they do it well.
WoD didn’t have anything for the casual and it cost them dearly.
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I don’t use battlegrounds or raids. I will probably spend more time in vampire tea parties than dungeons.
I spend the same money as you.
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London Fog. Shaken, not stirred.
Dang, there’s a lot of Blizzard Knights lined up in a phalanx here, hoisting high the Activision flag.
I do feel you OP. It is slightly troubling at the low number of dungeons. No mention of new battlegrounds or arenas maps and no focus on other substantial, non-borrowed mechanics.
I guess we will get what we’ll take and seems a lot of folks here will happily take anything.
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