Will they ever be a threat again? They actually were more fun to fight agaisn't than the Burning legion, feels kinda lame that they got totaly destroyed in one expansion when they had so much lore in Warcraft. [i][/i]
Scourge is still around though its being controlled by bolvar, the question is will bolvar remain idle or will he eventually strike out against us? only time will tell.
I'd say they felt more dangerous too - something about Legion's rendition is making the BL a lot less intimidating then they were during WC3, the burning crusade or even the well of eternity.
I think I'm qualified here.
I'm not sure if Blizzard is purposely building the Scourge back or what...can you imagine the outcry over WotLK2 (I, personally, wouldn't mind, but I could see where the "Blizzard isn't creative anymore" would come in)? But the entirety of our class campaign is, essentially, rebuilding the Scourge.
The Deathlord is the principle agent of the Lich King. We are doing his direct bidding. We've rebuilt the Four Horsemen. We're...well I don't want to risk giving away the class mount campaign or the 7.2 content, but...we're doing *that* (look it up if you're interested). The simple fact that we're recruiting troops means we are raising up new ghouls and death knights. The Scourge is, for all intents and purposes, active again. Sure, we're not tossing out plagued grain or razing cities again, but...one builds an army before one goes to war.
The catch here is that we've "struck a bargain" with the Lich King. He has agreed to keep the Scourge confined to Northrend IF we do his bidding.
Think about this for a second. Bolvar took the helm with the purpose of "being the jailor of the damned." Now, the Lich King is holding up that bargain IF we do his work. Doesn't that seem to suggest a shift in personality? "Yeah, I'll do the thing." vs "Yeah, I'll do the thing IF you scratch my back." It just so happens scratching his back is, basically, rebuilding his army.
There's a few missing elements here. The Scourge had a solid command structure...Kel'thuzad, the Cult of the Damned, necropolises (necropoli?)...so we're not what we once were. I don't think we're gonna kick out the Legion and just...try again. But it doesn't seem much of a logical leap. If the Lich King were to...repossess...Acherus and its soldiers and kick us, the player, to the sidelines, he's got field agents again, and we've done him the service of building up an army. And I remain somewhat dubious as to who is serving who. We are the Knights of the Ebon Blade. We aren't Scourge anymore. But I wonder...if we've been raising people as the Lich King's agent, using the Lich King's power...who is really loyal to who? Us, the player? Or the Lich King, who empowered us to act as his right hand?
Point is, I don't trust Bolvar's really there anymore. And I love it.
I'm not sure if Blizzard is purposely building the Scourge back or what...can you imagine the outcry over WotLK2 (I, personally, wouldn't mind, but I could see where the "Blizzard isn't creative anymore" would come in)? But the entirety of our class campaign is, essentially, rebuilding the Scourge.
The Deathlord is the principle agent of the Lich King. We are doing his direct bidding. We've rebuilt the Four Horsemen. We're...well I don't want to risk giving away the class mount campaign or the 7.2 content, but...we're doing *that* (look it up if you're interested). The simple fact that we're recruiting troops means we are raising up new ghouls and death knights. The Scourge is, for all intents and purposes, active again. Sure, we're not tossing out plagued grain or razing cities again, but...one builds an army before one goes to war.
The catch here is that we've "struck a bargain" with the Lich King. He has agreed to keep the Scourge confined to Northrend IF we do his bidding.
Think about this for a second. Bolvar took the helm with the purpose of "being the jailor of the damned." Now, the Lich King is holding up that bargain IF we do his work. Doesn't that seem to suggest a shift in personality? "Yeah, I'll do the thing." vs "Yeah, I'll do the thing IF you scratch my back." It just so happens scratching his back is, basically, rebuilding his army.
There's a few missing elements here. The Scourge had a solid command structure...Kel'thuzad, the Cult of the Damned, necropolises (necropoli?)...so we're not what we once were. I don't think we're gonna kick out the Legion and just...try again. But it doesn't seem much of a logical leap. If the Lich King were to...repossess...Acherus and its soldiers and kick us, the player, to the sidelines, he's got field agents again, and we've done him the service of building up an army. And I remain somewhat dubious as to who is serving who. We are the Knights of the Ebon Blade. We aren't Scourge anymore. But I wonder...if we've been raising people as the Lich King's agent, using the Lich King's power...who is really loyal to who? Us, the player? Or the Lich King, who empowered us to act as his right hand?
Point is, I don't trust Bolvar's really there anymore. And I love it.
I thought DK's were still considered a part of the scourge? Since Bolvar supposedly is keeping the scourge at bay and now we're taking commands from him??
05/05/2017 10:45 PMPosted by TeiahI thought DK's were still considered a part of the scourge? Since Bolvar supposedly is keeping the scourge at bay and now we're taking commands from him??
Per my understanding, no. We're still the Knights of the Ebon Blade, ie the knights that broke away from the Scourge proper. But we are working with/for the Lich King to defeat the Legion, bearing in mind that the Lich King, as a failed puppet for the Legion, isn't in their good graces. He has a vested interest in making sure the Legion, specifically Kil'jaeden, doesn't win.
As far as us being with the Scourge...think of us as independent contractors. We are working for the Lich King, yes. But we're doing so in our independent capacity, as opposed to employees with him as our boss. At least that's what we are told. I remain skeptical of Bolvar still being Bolvar.
You believe that you are in control, that your will is your own.
Yet you do as He commands.
You exist by His whim alone.
You imagine yourself to be free, but you will always be His instrument...
Yet you do as He commands.
You exist by His whim alone.
You imagine yourself to be free, but you will always be His instrument...
as far as iv gotten as well
im pretty sure the LK is up to seomthing if you pay attention to the class campain it REEKS of suspicion
im pretty sure the LK is up to seomthing if you pay attention to the class campain it REEKS of suspicion
They call themselves the forsaken now...
...they even have a lich queen and everything.
But yes, the other undead should be watched closely too, just in case they start using WMDs, using civilians for target practice, conducting weapons research on captives, and draining paladins to keep their boy toy looking pretty.
...they even have a lich queen and everything.
But yes, the other undead should be watched closely too, just in case they start using WMDs, using civilians for target practice, conducting weapons research on captives, and draining paladins to keep their boy toy looking pretty.
No. We, uh... THEY aren't a threat anymore. Move along...
There's no way it's him anymore, he's definitely up to something and I personally don't care if it makes Blizzard look creatively bankrupt, a "Return of the Lich King" expansion would be beyond awesome.
Conspiracy theory: Ner'zhul never existed after he died. It was Yogg-Saron all along.
05/05/2017 10:43 PMPosted by RychterPoint is, I don't trust Bolvar's really there anymore. And I love it.
Same! I'd love to revisit the Scourge again. They've always been a way better enemy than the Legion.
Now to wonder if Kel'Thuzad is going to return since we (yet again) did not destroy his phylactery when we defeated him for the second time.
As someone who missed wrath in all it's glory is personally love to see it if the story was really well written.
I would love the Scourge to come back. The setting is perfect for it as well. Bolvar (probably the most "legit" hero in the game) needs his well-deserved peace. Plus, we can get another iteration of the Scarlet Crusade. That's still one of my favorite faction-based story lines. The only foreseeable problem is where the setting would be since we already did Northrend and I don't think many people are interested in seeing a "re-imagined" version ala Draenor or Cata-fied Azeroth.
We only need back Kel'Thuzad to be complete basically
Man... NECRO POST sorry...
but what if they made a Scarlet Crusade Vs Scourge themed Heroes of the Storm map... that would be cool.
I thought first about "what if a WoW expansion" like, some kind of f-ed up 4 sided war but I don't think Blizz will ever let us play factions other than Horde/Alliance.
but what if they made a Scarlet Crusade Vs Scourge themed Heroes of the Storm map... that would be cool.
I thought first about "what if a WoW expansion" like, some kind of f-ed up 4 sided war but I don't think Blizz will ever let us play factions other than Horde/Alliance.
I wanna play as the scourge