I have a general question that hopefully people on this forum can help me with.
What is Blizzards call to action regarding a player scamming/stealing mats from another player to craft an item?
An example would be my situation atm: I am almost done crafting Sulfuron Hammer but may need to have someone outside of my guild ( this applies to someone in my guild too ) to craft my Hammer. I would be giving him pretty expensive materials. If he were to craft the hammer and refuse to give it to me/equips it or just disappears/logs etc what would Blizzard do to help me?
I noticed that there are certain instances where they cant help and I wonder if this one would be one of them. Lionheart helm materials were stolen from another player and the theif transferred servers. Blizzard told the victim that they cannot bring back the materials and that the theif MAY be banned.
They ban the scammer, you donât get the mats/gold back.
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In the past, canât remember if it was vanilla or TBC that they started doing this, they would action the player and refund the mats so long as they could confirm there was an agreement in chat. From what Iâve seen with Classic, it seems they will likely action the scamming player but not return the mats. It seems the best thing to do is work with someone you trust over this.
First it should go without saying, but clearly defined the transaction in chat. Make sure you log the dates and times. Make sure you clearly define the price, and what you exactly expect to be crafted⌠All of it. Donât use discord or another program to any of your negotiations.
Will any of that protect you from a scam⌠Probably not, but at least this way there is clear evidence if you do, and more likely that the person committing it would have some sort of action taken against them by Blizzard.
As another said, I would work with someone you trust⌠Or wait until someone in your guild can craft the item.
Generally, people wont scam you, for an item like that they put a lot of work into getting the reputation to make it. Their characters reputation on the server holds value too and they donât to be shamed off the server.
You can also ask for collateral. They trade you something of value or gold to be returned upon creation of the item.
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Lol people will swindle you for less. I agree to a certain extent though
From my experience on this, they will take action against the scammer, however you will not get your mats/gold back. An example was this: player A traded player B the mats to make Lion heart helm. Player B got the items, instantly logged off and server transferred. Player A put in a ticket and was told that the items couldnât be replaced but the scammer will â be looked into and they will take action upon invesgationâ
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8000g worth of mats is worth hundreds of dollars if you want to use RMT sites. A $50 transfer to clear your reputation is cheap in comparison
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âGenerallyâ players that are capable of crafting items like lionheart helm or sulfuron hammer usually have developed a decent rep on the server. I would just do some research on the player doing the crafting. Most likely someone you know has previously dealt with that person since not many people can craft those items.
If you report it to Blizzard via ticket, they will investigate, 9 times out of 10, youâll either get the item back or the mats, but you wonât hear about what they did to the scammer. But from posts on the CS forums, those scammer usually get a 3 day suspension at first and repeat offenders substantially more.
No one will want to have a ban and the item remove for no profits. Unless they have a quick sell for irl cash planned, but if you just do it fast, like talk the price and do it in the next hour, anyone will have time for pull it.
Damn thats wild even tho its so easy for them to un-do the grief 
This happened on Whitemane. The gms essentially said âtough sh*t, classic trades arent supported.â
https://www.reddit.com/r/ClassicWhitemane/comments/eq745n/follow_up_on_the_ruppie_lionheart_mats_scam_devs/
dont expect much from the garbage tier CS team these days.
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aw poop. Ill open a ticket as well to see what they say.
They used to perma ban the scammer and give you the mats back. Now it seems they dont give the mats back, likely due to this requiring input from a higher rank GM on their restoration team and Blizzard having virtually no GM staff anymore since they automated everything.
Blizzardâs customer service went from top notch to a joke.
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Not really. People have the idea that GMs have control over just about anything, but really what they have are the tools the developers have given them to do things. Those tools have evolved a lot, and many things were moved more to the player side - such as undeleting a character or restoring items.
Just to say, if youâre not the person directly involved, opening a ticket will do absolutely not but help add to the volume they have to read and close. Blizzard will not tell you anything about another playerâs account - whether the person who pulled the scam or the person the scam was pulled on.
EDIT: Reread and realized you are the person who might be doing this, and itâs more hypothetical.
The best way you can protect yourself would be checking the person youâre going to ask. Are they an active part of a guild? Have they crafted the hammer for others (not asking them so much as anyone else who has the hammer)? If theyâre involved in the server community, theyâre much less likely to pull a scam and transfer.
Before you make the transfer, make sure both you and they have a conversation in text about exactly what is expected - what mats youâll be giving them, that they will craft the hammer and trade it back to you, whether there is a tip on top of the mats.
The example you gave of someone transferring does create difficulties beyond when they donât. Transfers involve copying all of the data, and then âdeletingâ the data on the original server, or at least marking it as no longer being valid on that realm. GMs canât just restore stuff that would be on a non-existent character.
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Not to be argumentative, but they really do. Spawning an item or a monster are very basic GM abilities. They arent given to all ranks of GMs, but those abilities are some of the simplest things a senior GM can do.
Thats kind of where im coming from. If he steals my stuff, delete it from his inventory ( which Ive seen them do ) and produce the items back into my inventory. :S