Could we please have arrows/bullets with the same DPS as Scales of Sands ammunitions purchasable with honor?
Can have a reputation requirement from one of the Battleground faction if need be.
Reason why I’m asking for this is because of PvP hunter alts.
I can already foresee the responses here stating that “getting honored with scales of sands isn’t that hard”, my response to that is simply: But why are hunters forced to go through that for what is practically mandatory in arenas?
I for one don’t play my alts to PvE with them, I play to PvP and out of my 4 alts I arena with, the hunter is the one that get shafted the most by PvE requirements, and that’s before even considering the ammunitions.
I want to say they did this in a later TBC patch since ammo disappears in wrath. But not 100% sure. It doesn’t take much to get honored with scales though not even 1 full clear.
Also if u want the best from pve u got to pve I know not the response u want. Are u revered with Kara? That ammo is only 6.5 dps less and way less expensive.
Ammos doesn’t disappear in wrath. The best arrows you can get are crafted (saronite arrows and iceblade arrows in ICC), neither of which requires you to personally do PvE for it.
This has nothing to do with PvE. I want to PvP, not PvE. Mysterious arrow/bullet requires revered violet eyes which is also through PvE.
10 DPS difference between Adamantite and Timeless Arrows, 6.5 if you have Mysterious Arrows.
Those aren’t small numbers. We’re talking 140 Attack Power and 90 Attack Power worth of weapon DPS difference here. Going with anything less in high rated arenas is going to result in many games being loses instead of wins.
Which is 3 raids more than I should have to do for PvP.
10 DPS is the equivalent of 140 AP, it is very much mandatory if you want to be competitive in PvP.
I’m not talking about doing 10 arenas a week for points here, I’m talking getting high rated.
Are you gonna tell a warrior not to get their season 3 weapon because it’s not a huge difference with their season 2 weapon? Because that’s about the amount of damage boost those ammunitions give over the adamantite ones.
Could realistically reduce it to just Kael and Vashj only, ask your guild if you can replace a dps that doesn’t need anything just so you can attune.
Trash farming isn’t exactly raiding either, just zugzug.
Again, I shouldn’t have to do it to begin with, that’s the whole point of this thread.
No other classes have to do it, it was poor design back then and it is still poor design today.
It’s the same thing with PvP cloaks, except every classes have to deal with it.
Now I’m gonna ask you this: Why would you even be against this change? How does this affect anyone else negatively for PvP hunters to get a way to have the arrows/bullets they need for PvP through PvP?
Or are you just disagreeing for the sake of disagreeing?
Every time I read a thread asking to change something inherently BC I wonder why that person is playing it, poor design or not. Knowing blues the fear is they’ll respond with some sweeping overboard nerf that nobody asked for, like maybe actually getting rid of ammo.
But you’re right this is minor and doesn’t affect non-hunters. Carry on and good luck.
I was also trying to say, if you’re still going without that ammo, I would just try and hopefully someone would hook you up with those 2 bosses if you ask.
Understandable fear and reaction when you say it that way.
Thank you for understanding, it’s a small issue in the grand scheme of things but for me it’s a huge issue as it heavily impact my hunter ability to perform in arenas and makes me want to bench my hunter in favor of playing another class that doesn’t have those PvE requirements to enjoy at a high level in PvP.
I like my hunter, I’ve mained hunter for over a decade and TBC is the one expansion where I genuinely feel bad on my hunter for a multitude of reasons, these ammunitions are just the last straw for me.
You realize that the difference between the best weapons in PvE versus S3 weapons is between 2.5 DPS and 3.8 DPS, including ranged weapons DPS?
This is absolutely not the same thing, 10 DPS added on top of that difference is simply unfair for Hunters.
How about we nerf every S3 weapons aside from ranged weapons by 10 DPS to compensate? Sounds fair right?
Edit: Not to mention that S3 weapons has higher DPS than any weapon that isn’t from Archimonde or Illidan.
Closer than the difference those ammunitions provide.
6 DPS between Warglaives and S3 one-handers versus 10 DPS between Timeless and Adamantite ammunitions, and that’s without including the difference between Black bow of the Betrayer or Bristleblitz Striker and the S3 ranged weapons.
Even the legendary weapons, which should honestly not be allowed in Arenas, especially considering how Rogues are already the dominant class in PvP without them and the fact the main hand is a ridiculous 2.8 speed, aren’t as much of an increase as those ammunitions alone are.
