San’layn/vampyr Elf ALLIED RACE Coagulated Megathread of Ideas{Re-VAMPed} (Part 1)

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This is an interesting topic, and without a better alternative for a potential Undead AR … I do think it may be possible that we’ll see something along these lines. I do however wonder if its possible we’ll see a bigger culmination of Undead Elven races of some sort. Velanora apparently has a quest devoted to her (and she was unusually portrayed as the last ranger to fall in the BE Heritage Questline). So … maybe Blizz is planning on accumulating all of them together into one little sub-AR. Dark Rangers that side against Sylvie; Forsaken NEs; and what remains of the San’layn?

With how Mah’gar work, this would honestly make a lot of sense. Perhaps the Dark Rangers would have markings to differentiate themselves from the San’layn or something too. Or have extra customization with only the hunter class. The only issue I see with this is racials, since Banshee, Zombie, and Vampyr are all different. However if there were gameplay/flavor racials added for each group (so three flavor ones, and probably a few gameplay ones I suppose that could be all encompassing) we can say lorewise that whatever you pick would have that racial canonically and not the others. Or that all variant of undead elf taught the other each racial. Though blood drinking would be odd for non vampyr, so I think the former option would be solid. It might be a lot but I knew each AR has some flavor racials too. If we look at Zandalari, they have choice racials. So instead of loa we could get “embraces”. A buff of some sort that you’d activate to represent what you are–but would just be a flavor aura. So:

1. Embrace of the vampyr: Blood drips from your lips every so often/your eyes go from red or amber to pitch black as your lips peel back to show fangs.
2. Embrace of the Banshee: Every so often, your form becomes unstable, and your banshee form shows.
3. Embrace of the Zombie: Every so often, a chunk of flesh falls from you.

^^ Honestly something like that would be fun and not really impact gameplay since it’d be flavor. Certainly something to think about. Also welcome to the thread, I see you around and love how much thought you put into everything!

I could see these both potentially being new races we get in the next expansion, not Allied Races in this current expansion.

People know I’m the opposite of an avid supporter of LFU. If this happened however, I would have no room to complain whatsoever. If it’s a pair meant to be, well, LFU sound perfect. (People in the discord will go crazy as this is an ongoing joke I said in April fools. That I’m now saying unironically.) But heck if they can pull it off and actually make it thoughtful, as well as giving us the 'layn, I’d say sure why not.

Most likely, I honestly do not think many of the Allied Race megathreads are going to have theirs included within BFA, Blizzard likely already decided on most, if not all, the ARs they wanted for BFA.

Yeah you’re probably right. The bright side though is that new feedback can constantly be added. Even now we are having constant flow of either racial, lore, or scenario ideas which might be the feedback they desire. Also yeah I imagine with the amount of work put in for those folks, well Vulpera anyway, prior to the megas really taking off, if they’re put in that’s likely due to pre-planning. We might never know though.

I have a strange feeling about the Dark Ranger Velonara quest, but we haven’t seen too much of it in 8.2. Maybe in 8.2.5 or 8.3?

I need to stop being lazy and actually do this. Does it end in a cliffhanger?

If our megathreads were viewed by the devs and inspired them any, I would think some inspiration would happen in the final product, but not so much all of what we write in its entirety.

All that you say here makes complete sense to me. As usual you have impeccable wording. I’m tired and falling asleep but wanted to reply best I could. But you’re right. The work we’re putting in is probably seen, maybe enjoyed, and twisted.

One thing, though. I’m pretty sure terms say that Blizzard can use whatever we post here for their own ideas, as we’re using their forums. I dunno how accurate I am though. But the bottom line is I imagine if they like our ideas, they indeed would use some aspects with creative twists of their own. They are writers and devs, after all!

Therefore, yeah we probably are here for support and inspiration. I wish I knew who came up with all the lore we have thus far for the vampyr so I could compliment them and mention that I appreciate the hope they’ve given.

It occurred to me that there is probably a lot of things that have made it into the game that have been inspired from fan art. I remember reading that apparently the devs actually look over fan art on a regular basis to come up with ideas, but they still just want to do their own thing. Only understandable.

This is really cool and yeah I imagine they grab muse from the stuff some of us say and then make their own creation which is wonderful!