Any uses for spriest at all? Is 5% leech all that much!? Pvp ?
Nope, it’s just there to give holy a route to mindgames that doesn’t involve picking VE when they have zero shadow spells.
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I had this same question. Thanks all
The talents only useful for healers because leech is an hps increase.
I’m thinking about taking it as disc because I often forget to use VE as I’m juggling other cool downs because of high avoidable damage taken or I fell behind.
In PvE content (thinking more raid and less dungeons but still applies and helps there as well) i think leech can be of great benefit when you take into account the entire fight and not what it’s doing in that 2,5,or 10 sec window people are often looking at for burst or power or immediate healing.
Be it a tank, Dps, Or healer, Leech gives you X% of whatever damage/healing you deal as a % back to you. You could almost think of it as a personal Hot that is always there.
Now is it going to save you when the big 100+ k raid damage hit comes in, not likely. But you know that constant bit of raid damage that is ticking away at you, the 5-10k a sec damage that is always going out, if you have leech you can think of it as a way to counteract some that damage taken.
Well lets follow the logic: if you are healing over time a small amount of health that counteracts some of the damage taken over a fight >>> that is less healing the healers have to focus on you for >>> which is more time healing other people or addressing the big spikes in damage or even helping out with utility or dare i say dealing damage themselves should they choose* to.
So again is it END BE ALL, no i would not say that, but it does offer something that is beneficial over the whole of a fight which can be significant by the time the fight is finished.
Leech is great in raid/dungeons as a healer.
Vamp embrace is only debatably useful for Disc, too. It’s off the GCD now, which is nice, but it’s pretty dumb healing, and our shadow spell list that it affects is still pretty small even in shadow covenant.
I find it generally does a good chunk of self healing to just take sanguine teachings on both healers.
But yeah it’s pretty bad on shadow now that VE’s off the GCD, considering how much healing VE can do.
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5% leech is just really good in gerneral
I macro’d it with Shadow Covenant, so I don’t have to think about it lol