San’layn/vampyr Elf ALLIED RACE Coagulated Megathread of Ideas{Re-VAMPed} (Part 1)

True! Or on a more ‘monstrous’ note, perhaps he targets enemies to drink from. There is no shortage of enemies toward the Blood Elves. That would mean he’d have to vanish every so often, though. But perhaps people wouldn’t be suspicious for so long because they just assume he is sleeping/doing something else.

There could be pirates who steal from SMC (or try to), or those who commit violent crimes, the possibilities are endless because again there’s plenty of enemies in WoW.

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Someone over at mmoc found new entries in the item appearance table on PTR for a hunter set with icons from the gear dark rangers wear:

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The plot thickens!

Or he exiles people to the Ghostlands/Plaguelands so he can hunt them down in discretion so as not to harm the actual city or let Silvermoon know there are Vampires in their midst.

Wait… Didn’t he call the San’layn in the new quest a traitor… Oh… OH!

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MrGM made a speculation video, uploaded on May 16th, 2022. No real new information, although at the 3:35 mark roughly, we see some models of undead elves in the character creation screen. I assume they’re just some sort of fan made model as a concept as opposed to anything officially datamined, as I’ve not seen them talked about before.

Video here:

I will say I disagree with his stance on more encryption being good. In my own personal opinion, while some story things being encrypted is understandable, as you can see from what has been going on here, it has been causing more of a headache and frustration than any excitement since we’re in the middle of some kind of radio silence until some arbitrary reveal date of some kind. I’d rather not have to wait in a similar length of time between patches in Shadowlands for patch info of any sort, since feedback has actually helped change some things for the better. Moreso if it potentially involves playable races, which at present, the game could really use something exciting to draw interest back and entice pre-order numbers, and it needs it sooner than later (we are in a bit of a patch lull seeing as the current patch is pretty much at the end).

It also just seems to have a higher chance of leaving bigger sour tastes in our mouths if it ends up being nothing (to be fair, the rumors of new playable races are coming from unofficial rumors and speculation) or something really asinine, like the Light themed Undead nonsense. I could go on, but I’ve done that a lot in this megathread on the topic, and I’m sure it’s yet another thesis paper I could write.

Will continue to keep an eye out for anything of interest to report. :wine_glass::bat:

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I am so tired of Blizzard being silent and not communicating.

Its exactly the opposite of what they should be doing. If they’d just tell us what we were getting we could be excited, instead I’m just sitting here expecting absolutely nothing good is going to happen and frustrated that I know nothing of what to expect.

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You guys and gals inspire me to give my theory about undead allied race. Even though it is not about darkfallen I wanted to thank you for giving me courage to tell my opinion. Undead allied race Theory Here it is if you are interested.:innocent:

I just want dark ranger eyes for my Belves. If it’s for an allied race, then I have to race change my Hunter to have her how I see her. And I can’t have red eyes for my Warrior. It doesn’t need to be an allied race either. The eyes and skin tone are already in the game. Just enable them for players.

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Not to be a downer (okay, I’m being a downer) but it more and more feels like it’s going to be nothing, and the hype was here but for nothing. Who knows. It’s just tiresome. I want to see playable vampyr elves on the Horde for sure. Either they’re going to make it as lackluster as possible and shove them aside to ‘shut us up’, or we won’t see anything at all.

Edit: For me, no, Dark Rangers wouldn’t be a good enough. That’s awesome for the DR community of course. But I want vampyr specifically, which are different. Granted, I’m so tired of asking for things and getting complete silence that I might just walk away regardless.

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“I just vant to suck your blood. Is zat so much to ask?”

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https://youtu.be/nh9X9oK-AGU bellular video talks about darkfallen!

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So far, the video is pretty much speculation over stuff we know. Dark Rangers are mentioned specifically in said speculation, with San’layn mentioned when talking about the reclassification of Darkfallen.

Allied race theory talk at roughly the 5:49 mark:

Not sure if much more is said about it. Still listening to the video. If there is anything else, I’ll edit this post or make a new one. :wine_glass::bat:

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I know there is a possibility it may not happen but if darkfallen become allied race what will be there racial mount? I know this is just speculation but I’m really having fun figuring this out.

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Nothing else in that video really talks about Darkfallen in general, so just the usual speculation talk.

I am starting to notice a trend with these content creators and speculation talk that seem to be high on the idea of more encryption being used in general for PTR patches. It baffles me, since as a content creator, do you really want barely anything to make content videos about with time between patches being as long as Shadowland patches? Especially since feedback has on occasions helped knowing some stuff coming ahead. I feel like Phoenix Wright would have a field day pointing out the contradictions here.

If time between patches were much shorter, I could understand more encryption being used, but I have the feeling that won’t be the case any time soon. I feel like hiding too much for too long periods of time has more of a chance of backfiring in multiple ways. As I said, we don’t need to know everything immediately, but being completely in the dark for too long, especially with some features like if we’re getting new playable races announcements being withheld for long periods of time after a patch ends, does little to help customer retention, in my opinion.

As for the Darkfallen racial mount, a lot really depends on how playable Darkfallen would be handled. If they were focused on either just Dark Rangers or also include San’layn is one example, as well as Night Elf Darkfallen in general. Hard to really pinpoint a racial mount for them.

Will continue to keep an eye out for anything else of interest to report. :wine_glass::bat:

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For the mount:
Two options would be cool if they combined DRs with Vampyr. A cloud of bats and a ‘banshee mist’ form. Works like worgen’s ‘running wild’ except is either a cloud of ghostly mist or cloud of bats. Could even be red mist (there is an item you can use in game to turn into red mist) for San’layn if they want to be lazy and not animate a cloud of bats (though they could literally use pieces of the Hallow’s End Hearthstone animation which has bats flying around it…)

Also, wanted to bring up something cool I saw. I was watching a new anime on Netflix, Vampire in the Garden, which is an apocalypse with vampires (a genre I enjoy dearly, as I write it.) I like the vampire lore I’ve seen already a lot.

So, they turn into bat-monsters, sort of. Their arms can spontaneously morph into wings. They don’t need to transform all parts at once, either–see here:

I couldn’t get the clearest grab of the full form (I just watched the first episode, left an awesome impression, I’ll be watching more) but perhaps I will in the future. I love it, though.

It really is a shame that vampyr elves were never expanded to be like worgen except with bat monsters. That would have been so neat.

Edit: Also they have regular ‘human’ forms I assume they utilize when not fighting all the time. They aren’t always those bat monsters. I see them use it only in combat.

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A Darkhound if it’s just Dark Rangers.

I’d like San’layn to have some sort of bat… Though now I think on it a darkhound would work for them too.

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A bat would work for Dark Rangers as well, as Forsaken tend to ride bats. I ride the Witherbark Direwing whenever I use my Dark Ranger mog on my BE Hunter.

Racial mounts are always ground mounts though, so the Darkhound seems more likely.

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So if darkfallen blood elf’s and night elf are coming which classes will there be? Personal I’m choosing rouge outlaw and death knight unholy.

Think I gave this in the main thread. Though it’s a bit outdated and I am too lazy to edit it. But yeah… also, DK would be on the ‘very likely’ sphere now. I wrote this prior to ARs getting DK.

Edit: as you can see by my sass edit there, lol. Pretty sure that was passive aggression toward someone in the past who gave me a hard time for not being 100% up to date every second.

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Darkhounds are heavily based off of the Barghast. Which is also the fearsome dog that Dracula transforms into.

So it would work for both.

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San’layn Feral Druid would be a great nod to Carmilla.

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