Sames queues, 10x more honor for Horde now

Level your int buff please.
I said report the afkers. For the last several weeks people would afk and not take the queue so horde BGs would be down several players. Couple that with people who would accept and then afk inside and we were in the same boat.
Again, report them and move on.
Or, you know, come here and cry on the forums without doing anything to improve things, that always works too.

now add in an hour minimum queue time, we have FAR from a 100% win rate

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I’m not even sure it can be reversed at this point. Horde had 2 years to learn to strategize and play together while Alliance just gave up as soon as we lost the lead.
Now we’re getting steamrolled because Horde have so much BG experience and they see they maximize their honor by making the bg 10 mins.
We’re left with the leftover 20 honor per bg. It’s horrible

while theres sympathy to be had, making horde players wait over an hour to get into a game isnt the answer.

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I assure you, horde players are not organized, polite and team-oriented.

In fact, every time w/l ratios are released it shows that they are a lot closer than most players assumed. This is a common trope that exists even in retail. But when the data is released it usually ends up 50-54/50-46 at most.

All those issues sound self-inflicted… you had a month to gear, you didn’t… alliance race arent worse than horde, it’s the players on it. Stop making excuses for inability.

right , Alliance gets 3 weeks and Horde gets years, seems legit coming from Blizzard.

Just reroll Horde. Why any Alliance would care about PvP at this point is beyond me.

Alliance here and I que’d for 8 EotS matches, won 3 and lost 5. Only one of the losses was an outright slaughter. Time in que was no more than one minute each match.

What really is the problem here? Seems like a win/win for everyone. Horde win a bit more often but it’s not like it’s 90 to 95% like I see some claim.

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Because the Alliance players who are interested in Arena got 75k honour first day of prepatch and finished their pvp sets first week of tbc so they don’t need to pvp anymore. Whereas horde interested in Arena weren’t able to get that 75k first day of prepatch and are still working on their pvp sets so arena horde are still pvping and doing bgs in 100+ resil.

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Not anymore. Horde are stomping us. The new meta is rush ally and push them back to spawn and make it a short game

That sounds more like a skill problem than anything lmao cus alliance are more pvp geared than horde

Outside of premades, we were stomping you… this isn’t new, don’t act like it is.

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You literally argued against yourself, so I think there must be a misunderstanding. He said horde have MORE gear, which is just not accurate. Even you just said that.

I never said anything about alliance having less pvp gear I said the pvp geared alliance players are done with bgs for this season.
Yes horde do have more pvp gear in bgs because alliance who were trying hard for it already have it and have stopped pvping since there is no point in storing honour at max 1k an hour rate. The Alliance in bgs atm are just starting to farm pvp gear the horde in bgs have been farming the whole time.

That’s the weirdest thought process ever, but ok

I’m not complaining or anything, just answering your question about how Horde have more resil in bgs. Might be a weird thought process but, horde have more resil in BG’s that’s how it is.

THIS. This is an alliance problem between alliance that has nothing to do with horde! crazy huh how at the end of the day ally bash horde for internal issues when the real problem is ally themselves

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The average horde has between 0-50 resil. The average ally ive inspected has 0-350

You’re a delusional little man, stop making excuses for your inability.