So it wins by 2.2% in single-threaded rendering, doesn’t come with a cooler, and AMD says you should use a water cooler with a 280mm radiator to get stock performance.
It says optimized for liquid cooling but on the AMD official website it also lists a noctua nh d15 as well as other noctua coolers, meaning it can run on air cooler just fine
And whenever people get their hands on new chips I’m sure the next noctua alternative such as dark rock pro 4 would be able to cool it just fine too since they’re equal in cooling performance
Poor griefs didn’t read the whole article
But he does look the other way when 360 radiator can’t cool down a 10900k all core OC though!
Better binned, better quality silicon, on a mature process now. Could see some impressive all core clocks with these new chips. I am with you on the pricing though, we generally just got them for the same price in the past.
Still trying to make sense why you would spend…70-100+ dollars over existing parts.
i.e. at the time of this post…
3600 -> 3600xt is ~$80+
3700x -> 3800xt is $120+
for… 300Mhz?
I’m only saying this for the average joe, who probably won’t care about every single point.
The pricing and SKU makes very little sense to me. With their XT line, I can actually say the 3600x and 3900x is a significant better buy unless the XT counterpart can really overclock better, but won’t know until reviewers release their results.
Yes I understand that it is better binned and has better silicon. don’t have to tell me twice.
Be that as it may, we are pretty much at the 3 year mark and still on top. Complain all you want about power draw and overclocking, point is, the choice between 1600 and 8700k in 2017, Intel was the obvious correct answer.
complaining about a 3-year old 8700k being able to beat current chips at a high power cost is dumb, since people were comparing these chips against Ryzen 1st gen when they bought them. And first (and second gen) chips are getting crushed in new GPU scaling.
For further shifts and giggles, I overclocked my 8700k +100 more MHz (8700k XT?) and scored 558. If you’re keeping score, the 2017, $360 CPU is now beating the 2020, $500 CPU by the same point difference that this thread was created for.
yeah but 1600 has much better price/performance value something something something and you can upgrade it (will need two ugrades and still can’t touch a highly clocked 8700k)
but the power draw or something something something
I mean If we had known the XT chips in 2017 coming out I’d probably not buy anything till then either
You’re also comparing 1st Gen performance that had no maturity in the market yet vs Skylake 3.0 at the time, of course Intel related could have beaten it
Are you also going to tell me if you OC the 8700k in liquid nitrogen to compete against 4000 series you’ll do it? Regardless of power draw?
Nice
Don’t show voltage or said OC on chip because it’s either:
Margin of error at 5.2
Or actually using degrading voltage to prove a point when reality you’re not gonna use it daily
Meanwhile an XT chip with better ram and CCX OC will be even higher and that probably