Runes for Retribution Paladin

[Baldnbrash-wild-growth]

@Cardzz-pagle

I’m sure Wake of Ashes would be scaled properly to accommodate for Classic Wow and SOD. Wake of Ashes is basically the Howling Blast for Paladins and could see this being a lot of fun in situations and encounters.

People are already full of piss & vinegar over Avenger’s Shield being usable on a 30 sec CD - after swapping from a 2h to a shield - to slow up to three targets. A 14yd cleave(even just a 5yd cleave) that would give a 50% slow would have people be feral.

If it’s just damage, people would probably be more or less fine with it. The Demon & Undead stun would probably go completely under the radar of the anger of players, until Meta warlocks realized that paladins currently hitting them with Exorcism don’t actually have to have the Exorcist rune equipped to do so.

@Cardzz-pagle

Sheath of Light is absolutely vital in assisting Paladins with the terrible scaling issues suffered in Classic Wow. Sheath should definitely be introduced as a rune in Season of Discovery.

I generally would prefer stuff not to just be ripped wholesale from future expansions for SoD. I know this is what most runes are, and likely what most are going to be, but I’d prefer some originality. I had a thought earlier, so I’ll quote myself from another one of my posts earlier:

@Baldnbrash-wild-growth

Something that might work . . . is a rune that doesn’t specifically give you spell power based on your strength, but exchanges your physical damage dealt for X% of damage from that source instead as Holy damage. Similar to how paladin in WoD had the Final Verdict talent(different than the current Final Verdict) to replace Templar’s Verdict, with Templar’s Verdict dealing 259% Physical Damage, and Final Verdict dealing 240%, but as Holy Damage instead of Physical.

It would likely have to be a significant decrease in flat damage, especially when you consider PvP - I don’t believe there’s any way to resist Holy damage specifically, unless abilities/talents/potions that give resistance to ALL magic do for Holy as well - and would probably have to be thoroughly tested before going live (and then nerfed into the ground repeatedly before it’s not considered “insanely OP”), but it at least makes sense from a thematic standpoint, and I at least think it’d have potential. I could very well be wrong, though.

Sheath of Light would be a much, MUCH easier and quicker way to improve ret’s damage, though it’s not anywhere near as beneficial for prot paladins. The idea I had may be more beneficial for prot paladins, though I don’t know how it would compare to something like the WotLK talent Touched by the Light. (I’m not sure what strength would be like for a paladin tank in SoD at 60, nor how 60% of it being given as spell damage would fare.)

That having been said, this thread is about ret paladins, not prot paladins; maybe people posting in this thread wouldn’t care as much.
(EDIT: This was poorly worded. I didn’t mean to suggest people posting in this thread have disdain for prot paladins. Rather some people are interested in playing explicitly retribution paladins, and a thread that is titled “Runes for Retribution Paladin” may not get the best discussion on how a rune may affect prot paladins.)

@Cardzz-pagle

Righteous Vengeance should also be introduced as a rune. All classes have bleeds and dot affects and Paladin should be no different.

I’d rather they address rolling Deep Wounds than adding a DoT to everyone else. That having been said, kind of weird to have Crusader Strike and Divine Storm - two rune abilities - trigger this, but no Seals, especially when Seal of Command - the primary seal for ret paladins - has a chance to proc in Classic, whereas in Wrath it’s a 100% chance when you have it up. Again, I know the OP copy & pasted the text from Wrath, but I can’t really help but think past the surface, to my own chagrin at times.