can you read?
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and if you are soooo worried about people not playing by the HC rules, people break the rules now already, and it’s not a perfect system that captures everything and everyone not following the HC rules, I think the realm will just help to keep the community together! And if you are a HC-solo player/HC-non trading player, you can play like that, and if there’s someone who loves the idea of playing a HC character with the economy aspect of it, because this person loves to trade/professions and loves the atmosphere HC brings to game let them have it? I’m not sure why people being able to trade will ruin your gameplay? You can always check if the person has the HC addon and just play with HC addon only?
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What kind of “fresh”? There’s SO many different “fresh” camps, it’s not even funny.
this is cool. i never played a hardcore mode for an mmorpg, only in arpg’s. might give this a try one day.
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My version… and no one else’s.
Which “version” is that, though?
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I actually have no comment lol. Just being a putz.
I honestly don’t have an opinion on “fresh” classic ideas.
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I hope they will have death announcement.
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what are you disagreeing with? my opinion? idc. the fact that botters will still run rampant because there is trading involved? that’s something that has been discussed thoroughly by an actual botter on a massive reddit threat, and all signs point to it being extremely easy to bot on hc with trading allowed from lvl 1. It’s not just a theory, because you can use data from previous botfarms and see how much the toons have made before they ever died, and just mold the bots around mailing that much everytime they reach that threshold. sure you can use the addon, but people actively go out of their way to cheat and brag about cheating the addon to the point it should just be implemented in the game for those that want it to be, with blocking all trade from lvls 1-59 and giving those players on the realm a buff to show that they are restricted in that way. I don’t understand what you mean by “brainwashed idea” because it’s not at all lol, you sound like you are trying to brainwash people into believing that bots aren’t going to be a problem…
I am happy that there are some changes implemented that the community likes, but the overall biggest change, which is trading, has yet to be implemented in any form.
You’re being extremely rude by implying that I want to “take away” peoples ability to trade, so I’ll state it again, the addon isn’t perfect, there should be an option at character creation that allows you to make a character that isn’t allowed to mail, trade, or use the AH before level 60, just like how they have with the dungeon lockout before 60, and those players should get a special buff to identify with their community. you “economists RPGers” can still play however you want on the hc server
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Thank you SO much Blizzard! Can’t wait to play this on official servers <3
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I like world pvp, especially casual pvp encounters during leveling. I like to feel the danger for the posibility of being attacked in the open world by the opposing faction, and makgora doesn’t satisfy that. Having an achievement that incentivizes keeping pvp on would be great for me
ikr, this bragging right contest is tiring af, just have fun playing, stop comparing your accomplishments with other people and enjoy the HC community together in one dedicated realm.
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those who participate in RMT and boosting will never be a part of the hc community, but they will be on the same realm
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Best to ignore them all!
you are right there are ways to control the trading / economy aspect of the game to make it more HC, they might do something about it yet right? The realm is in PTR already? There’s plenty of time to make changes and adjustments to the HC realm. I do think this is a great base and already sounds super exciting to the HC and non-HC community!
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There’s SO many “fresh” camps, and I am against ONE of them which seems to be the one that’s being advocating for, and IDK why.
Yes, to “Fresh” Permanent BC Servers
Since, we do not have a BC server, at all, I’m fine with a “fresh” BC server.
Yes, to “Fresh” Seasonal Servers
Whether, this is a “fresh” seasonal of Vanilla, BC, Wrath, etc., doesn’t matter, it’s a seasonal server. It will never be “permanent/everlasting”. It’s completely temporary.
I’ll even include “fresh” seasonal “progression” servers, to this list, as well. “Progression” servers begin with Vanilla (or whatever expac the population wants) and “progress” through the exact same expacs, as the original “progression” servers have done. Whatever expac the “progression” servers “end on”, whether it’s Wrath, Cata, MoP, etc., is when these “fresh” seasonal “progression” servers will retire. As it’s pretty pointless to have two permanent servers of the exact same game. Eventually, these servers will retire, hence the use of the word “seasonal” even for these “‘fresh’ progression” servers.
No, to “Fresh” Non-Seasonal Duplicate Servers
Absolutely not to “fresh” non-seasonal duplicate servers! These servers never retire, like the seasonal ones. They’re copies of existing permanent servers to remain permanent and never retire. Whether it’s Vanilla, BC, Wrath, etc., doesn’t matter. As long as a permanent version of these servers already exist, I just don’t see the point in creating more duplicate versions of these servers and never retire.
This includes “fresh” non-seasonal “progression” servers (which is the main one being advocated for). It will reach an “end”, eventually, and I don’t see the point in keeping it around, once it reaches its “ending point”.
This is where I stand on “fresh”.
I hear people say this and I don’t get it.
As far as I’m aware the official HC servers don’t have party restrictions like the HC challenge does, albeit I do expect people on HC servers not to party in the open world, but who knows. Without partying a lot of quests are either undoable (class depending) or very difficult with a chance of losing the character. And no open world grouping just makes a lot of areas much riskier in general.
Yes, being able to go buy some upgrades or mats or potions does give you a noticeable benefit, but it’s not game-breakingly overpowered. If people start open world grouping regularly to tackle elite quests, or just the high density areas that are known to be threatening then that will take out a lot more of the challenge than being able to buy a few items or mats off the AH.
What I will say is that the only problem with trading/AH is that people are going to funnel gold and items over to their alts to power them up, and that will definitely power them up more than them being able to occasionally head over to the AH and grab a new slot or two. I also expect the economy to get skewed over time to where leveling gear/mats get ridiculous gold prices attach to them because people are funneling gold to their new HC characters.
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Not all of them. I’m OK with some (not all) of them.
I think thats dumb. Might as well delete the class. The paladin in vanilla doesnt have any attacks other than judgment and hammer of wrath. Why would you ban a class ability? This is stupid. If people want to play hardcore dont play a paladin. Ill rather play a class that HAS ALL ITS ABILITIES than a gimped class.
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I like the duel to the death in concept.
But in practice I feel like it’s just going to highlight how bad classic PVP is lol.
Maybe they’re concerned about Paladins rounding up mobs then bubble-hearting out leaving the others in the area to deal with it. You could grief unsuspecting levelers pretty easily.
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