unholy or frost for raiding, which one is a less confusing rotation?
Frost is the simplest
Unholy and frost are both pretty simple. I stopped playing my DK with how much I was falling asleep during gameplay. Pick whatever spec fantasy you like more. Frost is mashing 3 buttons. Unholy is letting your pet do all your damage while you hit like a wet noodle then wait for runes.
All classes specs rotations are pretty simple, but unholy rotation is way trickier to maximize dps than frost.
So frost is simplest.
Frost requires more setup to maximize dps and can be very unforgiving if you mess it up.
Unholy has a slightly more stuff to manage during their basic rotation but it is very hard to mess it up. Just make a few WA and you’re laughing.
Both are very simple specs right now like all the others in game. Just play what you enjoy most.
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Frost is more simple, but less rewarding. It’s also very easy to mess up since the resource regeneration is so slow. Unholy is a little more complicated, but if you do it right you’ll have better dps than frost.
What setup? You pool runic power when all cds are up and pop BoS and pray for the boss not to be moved.
You pool before your cds are up.
You also pool a bit for GS.
The setup I’m referring to is timers for boss mechanics. So like on Mythic Jaina you want to breathe right after the first Avalanche so that if you get it your not screwed. It also lets you ams soak the frontal for a ton of RP.
You should know when the boss will be moved. You just have to pay attention to timers.
Well thats something every class has to worry about poping cds at the right time
is not a frost issue only and poolling rp is not a lot of setup. UH has the same problem if you pop frenzy + trinket and boss move or you get targeted by mechanics youre f ucked.
To a degree.
Unholy frenzy doesn’t fall off if you are out of range of the boss for a few seconds though. You can still run back and have it up.
Also because BOS is such a major source of damage if you do screw it up it is much more impactful than say screwing up your UF.
I actually think Unholy has the easier rotation. CDs don’t do much so you don’t have to worry about setup or nice timings. Basic rotation isn’t very proc-reliant and rather stale as well.
Frost may be the simplest melee rotation of all.
Unholy Frenzy doesnt fall off? Do you think the buffs duration just pauses while youre not in range of your target? Lol.
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Both specs at their core are pretty simple to do Ok damage with, but there are certain scenarios in which a good player can show off their prowess with the class.
In the case for Frost, you can line up the end of your pillar of frost and then use your frostwyrn’s fury and cold heart to capitalize off the extra strength or have predetermined movement and positioning to get consistent well executed Breaths.
Unholy from a single target perspective is much easier as all you are really doing is applying and popping wounds, making sure to keep Apocalypse on CD and reapplying Virulent Plague right before it falls off. The only real min maxing comes from making sure you dont death coil with Dark Transformation off CD or making sure you dont overcap runic power or runes. However, in AOE Unholy becomes a lot more interesting as you need to apply as many wounds to as many targets as possible with a combination of Dark Transformation, Unholy Frenzy, and Festering Strike, and then finding the perfect time to drop a DnD and immediately Scourge Strike all the targets within the DnD for huge gains.
… no.
How did you possibly get that from my post?
All I’m saying is that it still allows you to use it for the rest of its duration. So if you pop UF and then run out to drop a debuff for 3 seconds you still come back with 9 seconds of the buff. You pop BOS and run out for 3 seconds BOS is gone.
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I get that none of it is very complicated, but if you were falling asleep playing unholy then you should probably quit because most other specs are worse… lol
Thats literally the same thing. The variable being length of time away from target/duration of buff (RP remaining). How did you not get that from your post?
… I’m not sure if you understand how BOS works or you are just trying to troll.
All I was saying was that UF is much harder to mess up simply because if you pop it then say get avalanche you still come back with the buff. Yes instead of it being 12 seconds it’s 6 seconds but you still get 6 seconds of the dps CD. If you do that with BOS you get nothing.
Unholy Frenzy is much less impactful to your rotation. The talent itself is something like a 4% upgrade over taking nothing. Breath is 14%. Therefore, your rotation is less screwed if you fail an UF window compared to a Breath window.
Havoc exists.
Frost is simpler than UH but Blizz actually gave Frost some nuance this xpac. It’s still quite easy, but it takes a little more brainplay to excel in than it did in earlier xpacs.