I’m planning on rolling a shaman in classic wow. I intend on playing for a long time and eventually getting T3 gear (yeah I know it’ll be difficult, time consuming, and heart breaking). I also want to get the legendary hammer, Hand of Rag to have some fun as Enhancement. I’m not going for min/max or even optimal gear/specs/etc. I just want to look dope with T3 shammy gear and hand of Rag, running in Bgs hoping for the rare windfury procs.
That’s my end goal for Classic WoW (like I said, this’ll take a long time which I’m willing to give).
My question for you all is: how would you react to letting a resto shaman roll for hand of Ragnaros materials in MC? Obviously rolling for off spec gear doesn’t take place over rolling for main spec gear. The thing is, resto shamans are much more useful to a raid than Enhancement shamans. That’s something that just about everyone can agree on. So I want to pull my own weight and raid as resto, and I’ll just roll on resto gear. The exception being that I want to get hand of Rag more than anything. Willing to lvl blacksmithing and spend the thousands of gold for mats.
So, would you let a restoration shaman roll on Eye of Ragnaros, Sulfuran Ingots, etc if you know he had that goal in mind?
EDIT: Guys, I’m not asking if guilds are going to fund me getting this mace, I’m not asking if it’s BiS, I’m not asking how to better my dps as enhancement. Please read the original question: Can a resto shaman roll on Eye of Rag (and other mats in MC) if I’m willing to put forth the time and all expenses to actually make it? Notice that I said ROLL. I’m not asking to reserve it over anyone else. I’m just wanting to not be a meme spec (enhance) and actually contribute to a raid as Resto, but I want to PvP as Enhancement for the procs and YouTube clips with hand of Rag. Put two and two together: I have to raid for hand of rag but I need to raid as resto even though it isn’t MS for resto. As hypothetical as it may seem to many of you for various reasons, just answer the question please
EDIT AGAIN: I’m well aware that the mace isn’t BiS. You don’t have to State the obvious. I also know that t3 gear with that mace won’t make me the best Enhancement shaman in PvP. I’m not trying to be Unbreakable. I just want to look cool and have some good clips. I’m not a streamer or youtuber. I just want to have fun. Stop telling me that the mace is garbage, I’m setting myself up for failure by wanting this gear, and just answer the damn question if it’s ok for resto to roll for the MC mats. Thank you to the few who actually understood what I was asking and answered directly. Whether you agree that resto should roll on mats or not, I appreciate your answers. The rest of you jackasses telling me that the gear is garbage, that guilds won’t fund me, that shamans have been nerfed, and that this dream of being Unbreakable is a waste (which I never said I wanted) can go back to elementary school and learn to read.
The tone of superiority by these people telling me what to do with my character and how to play is just stupid annoying.
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The more hardcore and earlier in progression, the less likely you’ll be able to pull this off.
Join a semi-serious guild, put in the hours for that sweet DKP and social capital, assure everyone you’ll spec into improved weapon totems, and wait for the later content phases, and it’s doable.
Looking at a previous thread, seems like Shammy’s and pally’s are high in the running for it, but may not want to get a powerdown a well specc’d resto Shaman for raid nights.
Jokes aside, get a DKP guild. But expect serious hate from the other melee.
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It’s a crap weapon, all yours
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We’re probably rolling with /roll, maximum chill experience, pray to RNG for good roll. Except for tank, tank gets the juicy loot first. And maybe top healer.
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It’s not a question of “who would use this the most”. It’s a question of “who is willing to fund this craft”. Most players are not willing to spend around 5 thousand gold to craft a 2h, which is what you’re looking at with the materials. Don’t expect any guild to give you all that, because it doesn’t help their progression one bit. So they’re not going to waste their materials on you to fund it. I’ve actually seen eyes drop, and no one want it, because they don’t want to fund the thing. If you take it, but then don’t follow through, you pretty much wasted it.
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This. By the time you get to naxx, Sulfurus is outclassed by everything. It’s merely a status weapon, and if you’re a big part of your guild, they should have no problem letting you ha e it (assuming they are still running mc for bindings when naxx is out)
The guild I am going with will let it go to a shaman, but only one specifically spec’d into Enhance who has gathered all the mats.
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Every guild is going to be different but I think it’s reasonable for it to go to a Resto Shaman. It’s more of a reward to someone for service to the guild than something you actually need for progression.
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your best bet is looking for a guild that would accept an enh shaman as a dps
they probably won’t be among the best guilds on the server, and they’ll be the kind of guild that doesn’t care about their raid composition so much
otherwise, your only option is to roll resto, that is, the only spec that gets you invited to raids, and then wait for naxx to come out for people to get stuff thats better than hand of rag so that you’re finally allowed to roll on it, against all the other resto shamans and also against the prot warriors
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In my old guild, one of our main raiding shaman did it, in pvp he would simply get targeted first with his orange hammer, everyone would fear him and anyone would target him… It’s simply too costly for a warrior to make since sword and axe spec are way better for them, THe PvP hammer will do the same job, 3 dps less on it, more str, will cost honor and some AV token
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This. What is the point of giving the eye to someone who isn’t willing to put in the time to farm the mats.
Who will farm the mats then? The guild? Ha!
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Terrible replies, so let me give you the pserver 2019 answer:
First off, Sulfuras is a pvp weapon. The fireball proc uses a debuff slot on the boss so you’ll never see it used in raids.
It should not go to a warrior. A warrior will quickly replace sulfuras in BWL. It’s polite to let the shamans have this one.
Enhance/ret paladins should not have priority over healers. It would be insane to expect to come to raids as a garbage memespec like enhance and get priority on a pvp legendary over other shamans who are actually pulling their weight. You are doing the right thing playing resto, and you have full rights to roll on the eye for pvp.
But the most imporant factor in who acutally gets it comes down to who wants to spend the ~8k gold required to craft it. If you’re serious about getting sulfuras, I wouldn’t necessarily recommend making the hammer first, but farm the gold and be ready to show it to your master looter. If you can show 5k+ gold on the spot you have a much stronger case. Don’t expect the guild to pay for it.
edit: You’ll have to buy ingots on your own. Don’t expect the guild to provide them.
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PFFFFTTT subjective sir! Add your reply to the list of terrible replies.
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In 1.12 debuffs have a priority system and the DoT is low priority so it gets knocked off just like mage fireball DoTs.
It’s useless for everyone else. As a warrior I would prefer spinal reaper or bonereaver. Boomkin has better options even if they want a hard hitting hammer. No one else can use a 2h mace.
The debuff slot doesn’t matter at all. The problem is that it’s not a nightfall. If you want to swing a 2h in raids, it’s going to be a nightfall. It doesn’t make sense to swing anything else. All the gold you put towards this, could have funded MANY nightfalls. This 2h is a PVP or solo toy, not something you’d ever swing in raids. Thus probably no guild is going to share their highly expensive dark iron/ingots to help you fund it. If you’re lucky, you might get the cheaper materials that drop in bulk, but all of the expensive dark iron/ingots are yours to fund. You’re looking at spending 5-10k gold. Unless you don’t melee in raids, a nightfall would have made much more sense to craft. But you could just get a spinal reaper to farm with. It has a rage/mana proc.
Not comfortable. If a drop isn’t going to help 40 people kill more bosses, clear trash faster… then why are we giving it to you? If no one who is going to use it in raids wants it then sure, roll away… but until the actual raiders are geared that is going to cause some serious drama.
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My personal view has always been that Hand of Ragnaros is a Shaman/Paladin priority weapon.
While it is good for Warriors also, there are much better weapons for us including Bone Reavers Edge and Ashkandi, Great Sword of the Brotherhood.
Good luck
Hand is not a good warrior weapon due to not being able to use the sword spec talent with it.