Really? What crawled up inside you and died?
This is a topic related to story, therefore it is relevant. Story and RP are practically tied at the hip to begin with, so there is always going to be some overlap.
Being a condescending twit isn’t going to change that, nor is it going to help dial back the already prevalent toxicity in the community at large.
Grow up.
What died? The notion of a person who knows that there is an RP forum for RP.
/looks at the title
It is about RP… even in the title, lol. The first word you used is “Roleplay”.
No. Not always. Some people actually post in relevant areas… like a thread about RP being in the RP section. There are people who keep RP out of Lore discussions. This area is usually for Lore discussions not involving RP, as RP based Lore discussions have an entire section all their own.
A fantastical notion, to be sure…
You wish to call names, while lamenting the state of discourse? Exactly the lack of self-awareness I would expect from someone who brings his RP to the Story section.
Making threads that are wholly irrelevant
to the subforum when there is an entire section devoted to RP does nothing to elevate the discourse either.
But you do you, and I do me. At least I do not pretend to be high and mighty while bringing the discourse into the gutter, such as yourself.
I will point out my disagreement. You can call me any names if you wish.
They do not. WET is for roleplaying. Not for discussing roleplay in a meta sense.
Y’know, denigrating people for roleplaying while frequenting a sub-forum dedicated to discussing aspects of a fantasy world makes you the black pot to his kettle, right?
Cursewords is better when just ignored. I can be pretty inflammatory, but at least I am not gratuitous about it. I rather not get banned for another 2 weeks, so I will keep my own inflammatory comments to myself…
Edit: How Cursewords isn’t permabanned from the forums is beyond me though. His contributions are always of an explicitly, bullying nature.
I try to not outright ignore people, but in certain instances - definitely. There’s a particular sort of people on the forums that seem to exist to rattle sabers and start petty arguments for the sake of elevating their own egos.
Not at all, if I keep mine related to the subforum I am posting in.
I do not go to PvP areas to discuss Pet Battles. Or to the Warlock Class section to discuss Priests.
So your point is moot.
Because simply disagreeing is not reason enough to be banned. Much to the chagrin of those who I disagree with.
Notice I did not call anyone any names. But I am the one using “bullying tactics”…
That must be what attracted you to Night Elves.
I’m hoping for more RP in the ‘new normal’ of the Armistice, and honestly… less focus on the actual Shadowlands Expansion for a lot of RP. Shadowlands just feels so … removed from any of the storylines that I feel we could interact with in an RP sense since the idea is that it is ‘only the champions’ going to the Shadowlands.
I feel there are a lot of RP plotlines to pick up around Azeroth, but the main problem is that Blizzard would have to be willing to give any sort of resolution to the numerous plotlines left dangling. The main thing I am interested in seeing though is more … interactions for each faction as RPers bring in more of each Allied race, and have them interact with the more settled characters / races of their respective factions.
He is discussing the story, and how it impacts roleplay. Story, Cusswords. Story.
Story.
In the Story forums.
About the Story.
It’s pretty simple, you shouldn’t be having such a difficult time with it.
Most of the forums, I think.
We can kind of Segway this into the topic at hand too. I have been RPing for awhile, and we have always had “ego RPers”. Where essentially, they are playing a character who is effectively perfect in everyway, and typically gratuitously inflammatory, for the sake of the player’s own ego. I think now is still the bane of RP but not really something that can be fixed.
When it comes to BFA’s effect on RP specifically, I actually like the political space BFA has created for RP. I think the problem the RP community is facing right now is honestly, how much of it happening explicitly in Stormwind and Ogrimmar. What attracted me to the Night Elf Community in RP is how much RP happened in Darnassus and Northern Kalimdor. That had been dwindling over time, but War of Thorns was the bullet to the head that finally put that down.
Now, we might see a guild pop up every so often, only to die after a couple months because people get bored RPing with the same people over and over. I honestly think my guild is the only OG nelf guild still standing on MG.
i never have been a roleplayer, maybe i lack the inspiration that is actually needed to be in character and get into the mind of yours.
i do have noticed the scalation in toxicity in the community, now of course maybe i am too guilty of that, and that is what really worries me that if is going to be like this always the only thing it brings me is negative feelings. but i cannot really help it.
As for the future of roleplay, as things are going right now, is really hard for me to keep caring about the story when the whole setting is devastated.
for example i try to care about shadowlands but i just can’t. i cannot help but think in what is going to be what actually matters to me and that is the nelf story in shadowlands.
That really is all what depends on to decide if i can keep playing this story or just find another game xD.
My drive for in-game role-play has basically dropped off between Warlords of Draenor, Battle for Azeroth, then Shadowlands. Legion had potential for what I like, but still went a bit off the rails. Still considering doing some in Classic, but leveling an alt is work, so we’ll see.
There was nothing specifically egregous about the Battle for Azeroth storyline as far as role-play, to me. But coming off the heels of Argus, it felt like an awkward tonal and scale shift that lost me.
I feel like a lot of people will avoid certain story aspects like in Warlords of Draenor.
Vespero’s story remains unchanged.
I will do anything anyone pays me to do.
The fact that players have been asking for Classic servers for years is of course, totally irrelevant.
I would love it if there were more places that could be good RP hubs. Back when I first started RPing one of the biggest RP hubs Horde side (and how I got into it) was Brill. Back before the Cataclysm revamps the fact that it had a ruined Human style inn made it perfect for housing RPers when many Horde buildings were … less well suited to it. Such as the fact that it had chairs.
I feel there are so many places in the game that could have been made into much better RP hubs if only the company had put a bit of work into making more ‘peaceful’ parts of the world. Places like Suramar, the Tavern in Shadowforge City, etc would all make great places for RP to branch out. Even Silvermoon used to serve as a bit of an RP hub (and still does)
Part of the problem though is that the RP community is often so small, even on RP servers that it is hard to support multiple locations and attract people to come to them. I don’t really know of an idea to fix that however.
(Also if you have any characters that would be interested in cross faction RP that isn’t just PvP, I’d love to try it out)
I’m an on and off RPer, but I was greatly looking forward to participating in war events if BFA was as advertised.
It wasn’t. MG Horde RP was already kinda dry, but… man WoT really took the wind out of the sails quick.
That being said, my characters live in Azeroth and the war did occur. Some are soldiers of the Horde, thus they took part in the War of Thorns, including Azi here. I may not like having to bend my characters around these events, but it is necessary in order to keep continuity. So, I was a loyalist until the end, based on duty and preservation.
Not the character development I was expecting, but what can you do?
War of Thorns is definitely a part of my character’s history. She’d lost her father in the Cataclysm when Deathwing destroyed Auberdine, and her mother was killed trying to rescue civilians from Darnassus.
I have no idea what your talking about war of thorns was glorious for rp I loved the fact that a lot of nelf guilds and other alliance guilds got together and played out the drama, tragedy is a part of storytelling you know my guild and others had great times during the early months of the xpac seems the rest of the server did too at least from my experience most of my rp now is the aftermath of the war and stuff
And bfa is no different to other xpacs when it comes to long pauses like I remember people being annoyed at Argus cause we didn’t know what’s gonna happen next if you aren’t used to rping during the long months of waiting I dunno what to tell you since that’s always been a thing
I probably have a few characters that would be good for it. Considering most of my characters are Nelves though, there is defiantly some bad blood with Horde races. But hey, I am always willing to give things a try.
There was one event series that was more pvp than it was RP… And this was at a time when a lot of players had resubbed for the new expansion, before anyone knew how horrible it would be. There was a massively steep decline in Nelf RP after the Burning of Teldrassil. You should be well aware of this, since your guild is basically nonexistent as a result.
This is why I haven’t really had anything to contribute. While I have at least one character of every Alliance race, except a couple I haven’t bothered to unlock, Night Elf RP was my main focus. And my RP circles have pretty much dried up from frustrated friends unsubbing. Though the War of Thorns actually fired them up, for a time. What killed them seems to have been a combination of the abrubt tonal shift from “here’s the greatest in-game tragedy of the Night Elven people, now forget about it and go help Yet More Humans”, and the lackluster, indecisive (for a long time) Warfront followed by “the Night Elves already got their revenge”.
I honestly couldn’t tell you the last time I RPed with another person. My in-game time is mostly spent farming mounts, mogs, and pets with my bf, and my RP nowadays is mostly just crafting backstories.
There was a huge thread where people were retiring from the Horde over Teldrassil. I posted in it. BFA really killed Horde pride.
It appears printed from a press in Orcish.
I, Treng, son of Treng , a national of the Horde, solemnly swear that I was born in An internment camp , Hillsbrad in 18 BDP , that I formerly resided in Orgrimmar , Durotar , that I am a national of the Horde by virtue of its formation .
I desire and hereby make a formal renunciation of my Horde nationality and absolutely and entirely renounce all rights and privileges and all duties and allegiance to fidelity thereunto pertaining. I make this renunciation intentionally, voluntarily and of my own free will, free of any duress of undue influence.
Treng, son of Treng, whose father was Treng before him
I’ve served the Horde since I was old enough to wield a spear. My father saw to that. First, it was hunting. Animals were fair game and troops had to be fed. You’d be surprised by what you learn about killing from hunting. One quick jab to the ribcage, just in the right spot, pierces the heart. It kills quickly. It kills well. It’s the least we can offer the dying. A quick death.
After a year hunting, I was given an axe and sent to an old human fort in Durotar. Turned out some holdouts from Kul Tiras had re-occupied Tiragarde Keep. I went in with a handful of other soldiers. Mostly Orcs and Trolls. Some Tauren, and a couple undead, but all of us, for the lack of a better term, green. We went in and we killed them all, but most of us killed them well.
No one deserves to die slow and in pain. Or at least most don’t.
I’ve served in the Barrens and Ashenvale. I’ve served in Stonetalon and Desolace. Truth be told, there’s more places I’ve been than I’ve not. I was a right and proper soldier of Thrall’s Horde. His Overlords would point, and I’d follow.
I’ve seen Warchiefs rise and fall. I’d been opposed to Garrosh since day one. I remembered how he was in Nagrand. How willing he was to let his clan die in his malaise. But I respected Thrall – he’d earned my faith. So, I followed Garrosh Hellscream after he killed Cairne, and he tore through Ashenvale, and sailed to the Twilight Highlands. Garrosh killed and maimed like a man possessed, but he didn’t kill well. He killed for the joy of it. Pandaria was when it became too much. Pandaria was where I drew the line.
I should have drawn it sooner.
I signed up with Vol’jin’s revolutionaries the second I’d heard news. The Horde was fragmented, and with Lor’themar’s help, Vol’jin stood as a unifying force. With the Alliance’s aid, we stormed Orgrimmar and put the tyrant on his knees, Titan artifacts or no.
Vol’jin became Warchief not long after that, and my son was born. I felt such great pride. And to see the homeland of my father, no matter how remote or incongruent, to see his people in their frozen homeland. I wish my son could have remembered it.
But then the Legion came and Vol’jin fell. And Sylvanas became Warchief. I remember standing in the crowd, one face among many, my wife holding our son as Sylvanas asked us: “Who among us would help her avenge him?” It was a masterstroke, in retrospect. I believed her, despite my best senses. But we got to Stormheim and it was all made clear. The only thing Sylvanas did in the entire Legionfall campaign was try to enslave Odyn’s Valkyr.
And so the Horde didn’t avenge its last true Warchief. The Alliance did most of the work, while we served the order halls and the Horde, itself, did nothing. Kil’jaeden fell, though I don’t know any who were there to see it. Nor Argus.
For any sensible man, this should’ve been enough, but I wasn’t sensible. I let it pass. And as the Forsaken killed women and children in Ashenvale, I let it pass. And as their tree burned, I let it pass.
All those people did not die well.
And finally we were called to Lordaeron. The Alliance’s counter-attack called in force, to make us answer for Teldrassil. And for the first time, I couldn’t say they were wrong. But it only got worse. This ‘Warchief’, Sylvanas Windrunner, equipped her Forsaken forces with special masks and gave them Blight equipment. She sent them into the battle, spraying down Horde and Alliance alike. And as they died, they did not die well. They choked, and gagged, tearing at their throats to breathe breaths that would not come. They threw up, and rithed in their mess on the ground spasmodically, but that nightmare wasn’t enough. Not for her. The Banshee Queen wove her magics and the dead stood again, tearing their flesh from their bones like some kind of macabre puppets before running head long into the Alliance forces. She had a message to send.
Orcs, Tauren, Trolls, Humans, Dwarves, Gnomes. It didn’t matter to her, as long as it wasn’t her Forsaken troops. She repeated this at least three times as I saw. It got kind of fuzzy and jumbled after a while. So many who did not die well were not only being weaponized, but cut off from their ancestors. But surely she’d let them go and release them when the battle was over.
The retreat was called. I don’t remember how we got out. I don’t remember how I survived. After a week I flew back out to Tirisfal in the dead of night. I had to see for myself. See if I could find my wife’s bones. I couldn’t. Not in that sea of blight. Not in that ocean of skeletons. All still animated. All still patrolling, or working. Some even on the tanks. And to the north east, some Forsaken stood with their masks, doing something to the Blight.
Now, I stand at the precipice. How many soldiers is she willing to kill to get what she wants? How many of our own will she sacrifice? I lost my wife to her lunacy. I won’t risk my son.
I should have learned my lesson with Garrosh. I thought that I had. All too late, I’ve come to the realization that Saurfang was right.
I won’t return to her Horde.