My main is actually an Outlaw rogue and I’ve never used Shiv in my life before. The fact that I neither raid nor pvp might explain this. That being said, is there any situation where the skill is useful?
It removes enrage effects. You can also use it to buff Sepsis or Kingsbane.
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It’s an insane mortal strike in pvp for assas rogues who also get 2 charges now
From old memory,
Dispel Enrages
Applies your passive poison
Applies Healing debuff
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when a monster gets big mad and turns red you can stop it from being angy with shiv.
iirc itll also slow ppl in pvp
Poison stab move.
I dunno but I use it when it comes off cooldown.
I’m a good rogue.
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Blizzcon champion moves right there.
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as outlaw: removes enrage effects, applies and amplifies your non-lethal poison, gives you a combo point. not super useful outside of if you want to amplify your non-lethal poison to super slow movement/casting speed for a few seconds
as assas: does the above but also gives you a massive nature damage buff, in pvp also applies a 40% ms with the hemotoxin pvp talent
pretty niche for outlaw outside of slowing things, it’s way more important for assas rogue damage
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Thanks for the detailed reply. Yeah, that makes sense why I hadn’t really given it much attention. I rolled an assassination alt to try the difference in play style. It’s an obviously more useful skill when specced for it.
I found it really handy when leveling to remove enrage effects (the boost to numbing poison was nice too) though some mobs are like HA I just enrage again!
I wish it removed “Accursed Strength” from mobs in the Maw, but it doesn’t.
you make tanks cry
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I mean I’d be pretty pissed if you shivved me.
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Healers too. Well not my Druid, but…
It dispels enrages, because nothing calms a person down like a nice soothing shiv to the kidneys.
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Too busy trying not to die to be angry. 
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