I have literally said multiple times that I have had to fill rogue slots. Meaning I don’t have guild rogues on standby. Meaning they came from LFG.
The number of times you’ve said “hurrdurr you has a reeding problum” to me while you struggle to stay on track with every post you make is hilarious.
There it is again.
The API does not pull snapshots. It is Blizzards API (hurrdurr for da slow, since I mentioned this twice already). Blizzard does not snapshot your ratings.
So, get with me tomorrow on your Druid and we’ll do my experiment.
What do you have to lose? If you’re right I’ll publicly acknowledge it.
I maintain that with very, very few exceptions, Rogues at this level of the game are utter garbage, unwilling to be team players, unable to do what they think Rogues ought to be abel to do, and a net loss to just about any team.
Prove me wrong.
I’m not being sarcastic or hyperbolic.
I’ll be on from about 7:00 pm (CDT) until Midnight or so. My BT is Kaldara#11970.
That’s all I’m asking. I asked it in my first post in this thread.
It doesn’t seem that much of an ask from someone who is supposed to be an expert to have them look at what’s actually going on in the world of not-part-of-a-solid-crew Rated BG PVP play.
I’m gonna spend some time tonight putting together the API parameters and I’ll post them here tomorrow. But yes, they do throttle the data. I’m looking at the page that says so right now.
I do not have horde toons available. I play Alliance.
And that aside, I have no interest in playing with someone so adamant on blaming others for their losses. Attitudes like that are a part of why people say PvP is toxic.
Throttling is not snapshotting.
Blizzard does not snapshot PvP ratings. It’s a continual database update. When you hit a new CR high it will be saved in Blizzards database regardless of how fast you tank that rating. As I said, the API already has your current 1329 recorded. Meaning that it would have already also recorded your fake 1399 season high, which does not exist.
I am done with this discussion.
You have repeatedly demonstrated that you’re a lying, clueless, scapegoating, and inexperienced person with a typical low elo mindset and attitude. Pointless to continue this.
The thread is debunked and anyone who reads this thread will see that.
Peace out 
As I said. Troll. I’ll post more data as I have it.
You should be able to get away without needing a Rogue up until the very top tier.
My point, exactly.
Honestly, Pizsasuace - a fairly new Hunter - can ninjacap as well as any rogue I’ve seen and he doesn’t wander off after.
Between a few decent Feral Druids and a few Hunters I know, the stealthy stuff is pretty much handled without the drama of dealing with Rogues.
I look forward to playing at a level where they’re as useful as they think they are, but at the early stages, they’re a net team loss with few exceptions.
I do have a query in on the Blizzard API, but I’ve looked at the data structure already and there’s no comprehensive history that I can find. It’s data from the moment and the moment is either going to be based on a snapshot that Blizzard takes and makes available to the API community or (very unlikely) a real-time pull. I say “very unlikely” because it would be possible to interfere with the game itself if Blizzard made real-time API calls possible.
I’m going to be away from my computer most of the day, but I’ll answer to anyone who wants to chime in on this when I return. Doctor visits (don’t get old, seriously).
This could be said of any class at 1400. Some rogues during games look like they are gamechangers when in fact they are just capping vs inexperienced players. And vice versa. If u take a rogue your entire hopes of winning shouldnt rest on a rogue.
Try different things. Go heavy upfront and smash people with platewearers or run double hunters. You can do many things. If anything finding an exp tank is harder tuan a rogue
Last time I made this challenge on the forums I actually had to publicly apologize.
But a good rogue can be a win for a team, a bad rogue doesn’t mean a loss. As Logic said, a bad rogue could just be a waste of space, but you don’t lose an RBG because of one player.
Zero groups ask for a hunter specifically. Almost every group is going to ask for a rogue. Please relax.
Not sure why you have a vendetta against rogues , they are as good or as bad as people who play any other class. Not like there is a separate group of humans who only play rogues .
He saw the opportunity and he took it
Maybe the rogues you are picking aren’t playing the class right, cause the rogues I know can shut people down.
at that bracket ONE class is able to carry an entire team, so try and do that. i did like 3 games on this DH and went almost 20-0 lol… pick up the slack 
This really isn’t a rogue’s job…
That said, there is an absolutely huge gap between an undergeared and inexperienced rogue and a geared and experienced rogue. Arguably, a gap greater than any other class.
What if you have a healer that doesn’t heal or has positioning so poor that they get insta-removed from a fight (seen it)? You can lose a close match because of one player that is massively underperforming.
I agree with you on that, we lost a rated AB cause the Tank didn’t listen or go to where we said.
Yeah any enemy rogue in a team fight is an auto-switch for the other team. The only times I’ve successfully been in team fights is to sneak up and drop a healer who fell a little too far behind the group, but that’s it.
Well put. I think there is something to be said about rogues having a lower floor on their performance. I mean, if I had a friend who only PvE’d, I would probably suggest they play something like Boomkin or Ret Pally. I wouldn’t suggest rogue or mage.
But I wouldn’t extrapolate that to any player still under 1400. Especially right now when an 1850 rating would place you in the top 1000 in NA.
My guess is that is probably easier for a strat caller to win a team fight with 8 players , rather than possibly lose the team fight and have to coordinate multiple counter attacks.
But yeah, just because they are low rating, that doesn’t mean they can’t help.
From what I’ve seen, participation in a team fight is pretty transitory. Smoke bomb the flag cap, duel a healer, then GTFO and be unpredictable. Make them think/talk about where you are and what you’re doingj.
Exactly. Rogue is essentially a spec ops role when played right. Make them divert significant time/resources to addressing lil ol’ you by your lonesome.