Rogues - How Do You Do It?

After leveling a bunch of alts, rogues are by far and away the worst class I’ve had the displeasure of leveling.

Yes, being able to sneak around everything and sap for objectives is great and all, and Outlaw has some nice gems with it (it’s my “favorite” rogue spec), but rogue gameplay is just not fun, damage feels bad outside of burst windows, and they’re super-squishy for a melee class in full looms.

Personal class preference:

Warrior>>>Priest=Mage>Druid>Hunter>Shaman>Paladin>Monk>Death Knight>Warlock>Demon Hunter>>>>>>Rogue

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Idk man I’m just used to it.

Are you playing Sub? Because at low level dmg would most certainly feel bad outside of shadow dance w/o having MFD.

And also our squishiness is made up for the fact that we have Vanish, Evasion, Feint, and high mobility.

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You played sub before outlaw didnt you?

You must learn to walk before you run, young padwan

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Yeah, sub, then assassin then outlaw. I don’t care for the class as a whole after trying all three specs.

Rogues have been rough to level for a long time. The main issue for me at least is they’re constantly energy starved until they get certain talents and passives that fix it, which isn’t till later levels.

So it’s just an endurance contest until that point when they do become fun.

They do have some self-healing and CC abilities, just use those wisely and be careful with pulls. Rogues are more of a one target at a time thing, not a mass pull and aoe.

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Ahhh then theres your issue. Subtlety has the highest learning curve out of all 3 specs.

I’d recommend starting off as Sin or Outlaw if you prefer being able to do big damage outside of burst windows.

However once you master Subtlety, it’ll feel like the deadliest out of all 3 of the specs.

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Appreciate the advice, may be quite useful if I decide to level another one. Plenty of cosmetics to go after that require rogues.

Low levels is suck… once you get the talent that allows stealth moves and duration based moves refund energy with the x energy for bleed tick helps tons.

Iirc I went outlaw followed by sin… I just can’t remember the levels

I guess I never really thought about it. Combat/Outlaw has been one of my three main classes for years now, along with MM hunter and ret paladin. Just keep slice and dice up, stack some mastery, and watch things crumble at your feet. Our aoe kinda sucks, though.

Rogues do it from behind. Duh!! :wink:

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How can you rank mage so high when squishiness is one of the things you don’t like? My thread would be “Mages - How Do You Do It?”

But yeah, rogue and mage have always been my weak spot with playing classes, but I’m not too bad at rogue anymore.

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Mages aren’t melee.

From behind ?

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Oh! Well, there’s my problem.

Eh, I was addressing the part where you asked why I liked mages since they were squishy. My OP talks about rogues being squishy melee.

Squishy ranged is fine.

You’re talking classes, but even within a class all specs are not equally easy to level. I think Guardian is hands down the easiest spec in the game to level. And to level a rogue I normally just do gathering now.

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Rogue leveling is unbearable

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Outlaw is really good for learning rogue right now.
Its like rogue on easy mode. Good damage and pretty decent survivability especially once you get geared.

I played outlaw all SL till now and it was a blast. Now Im trying to learn subtlety so I can call my worgen rogue a subwoofer

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yeah not all specs are equal as for leveling, especially when they changed up which spec gets what moves at one point. Frost DKs for example don’t have their full move set out the gate and are thus rougher to level than say unholy. As far as rogues go I’ve only got two myself, first one I thankfully leveled when their move sets weren’t all over the place but they’re now outlaw spec where as this gal here I’ve never changed spec with once, leveled her purely as assassination and it wasn’t too hard for me. First rogue helped me figure out my play style and while that first one has a more open weapon set having this one specialize in poisons and knives just seemed so fitting. I…sadly can’t play subtlety to save my life, it truly does take quite a bit to get the hang of unlike dipping knives in poison and making sure you’re not pulling too much at once. The leeching poison talent is always nice too. I use a lethal poison and I get leeching as well and I’m often walking around with deadly poison, crippling, and leeching given all I need to gain leeching is a lethal poison and crippling is non lethal but helps secure kills

When an class gets its AOE stuff and how early affects how well the class works early levels.