Rogue trinkets

So…I got earthstrike, cuz why not. I only have the 2% crit and the 2% hit trinkets.
I’m 5/5 tier 2.5 with daggers (though I’d love to go swords) perdition and the 3 piece from aq20 offhand etc. What I’m trying to figure out is, should I dump the 2% crit or the 2% hit and use earthstrike for the dps boost? I’m only missing a like 2-3 leather pieces from aq40 and of course the dagger i’ll never get (or the swords). At any rate that’s my question. which to give up? Note: I’m a rogue obviously

2nd it’s surprising to me that the brood exalted ring isn’t better than some of th eothers, with all that agility and + hit

How much +hit do you have right now? Hit cap for yellow hits is 6% if you have 305 weapon skill (which you should if you have the right +daggers items), or 9% for zero bonus weapon skill, which is why the gloves from MC are so important.

If you don’t have anything you want 9% hit, but if you already have all that then it’s not worth going for more hit and you’ll want to replace the hit trinket, as the crit is far more valuable at that point.

way above 9 % im a rogue with like 17+ but a dwarf so it is what it is :slight_smile:

If you raid with world buffs, you will probably want the hit to avoid being crit capped.

You really don’t need that much hit, it’s vastly inferior after you’re capped, so swap the hit trinket and try to replace the other pieces.

Inferior to other stats you’re not capped on, that is. The white hit isn’t as useful.

Not true when world buffed. And doing more auto attack damage is very good for rogues.

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Howmuch crit do you have?

Without buffs

Also what consumables and buffs do you normally have?

Reason being that if you have full world buffs and all the good consumables and also leader of the pack, then the hit will be more valuable.

However if you don’t use consumables and don’t use world buffs and don’t have leader of the pack then the crit is more valuable

If you’re hitting the crit cap, yes. But I don’t think the OP is - they also have an insane amount of hit that is absolutely unnecessary at that point.

There’s also pieces that offer more than just +hit or +crit.

Maybe. But I am right at crit cap with full buffs and my gear is very similar to what he described, but using HoJ instead of a hit or crit trinket. And for some reason when I was using the Claw I was over crit cap even with ALL my hit gear, like 18 or 19%.

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Yeah I do have a hoj…didn’t consider using that but im daggers so…

True, but at that hit % I think it’s almost a wash. He could also go for something like HoJ too.

EDIT: It’s not as big as for swords, but HoJ is great for daggers too.

AQ gear just gives hit on almost every piece so it’s almost impossible not to be way over the yellow hit cap. hehe

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Well, that is why there’s some pieces from older raids that are “better”. Though there’s so much damn hit out there for physical damage dealers.

I cry in Warlock.

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Most of the time Crit wins the race, but if you have full world buffs (that provide crit) and consumables (that provide crit) and leader of the pack (assuming your raid tank is not bogarting the good buffs) then in an ideal situation with buffs that surpasses your auto attack crit cap; then the hit is hard to say no too:

It’s also something to point out that once the buffs fall off you can swap to +crit gear.

But, yeah, if you’re fully buffed there’s no real reason to wear more +crit… though, he does have HoJ so he could just use those two for more benefit at all times.

This isnt true

Rogues are hit thirsty af. Hit pushes the white crit cap up and since such a large portion of our dps comes from AA due to SnD hit becomes a dominating stat, Even w/o WBs a lot of hit is a important thing for rogues

So are we talking Blackhands breadth (BB) vs Royal seal (RS)? When it comes to earthstrike (ES) you need to take into account the fight length. If the fight is right around 1m or less ES has some really good pop to it. As soon as fights start getting towards 2m it really starts falling off and both BB and RS start to run it down. Depending on your hit value will be what determines whats stronger between the 2. Id highly recommend you sim it

For me the crit from BB edges out RS and im at 20% hit atm

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yeah you ahve more hit than me slicy - i do have hoj which could be fun, and im’ always WB’d on my gdkp runs. so…prob just go the crit or the HOJ for fun

Yeah stick with the ES for any fight around 1m. The difference between the HoJ and the BB will probably be minor, i just choose BB over HoJ because my hit is so damn high. Buy a DFT from one of those BWL gdkp runs and make the decision a lot easier!

I just saw one go for 22k.

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22 thousand gold?