Their damage is fine.
Their survivability is fine.
It’s simply this brain dead conduit that gives them a shield when they go into stealth so even if you have bleeds or dots on you…you are still allowed to get a restealth.
It’s beyond me why this is a thing.
Just get rid of that conduit. Rogues can still get restealths…it will just be harder and they may actually need to outplay people instead of just line of sighting everyone with dots…getting a reset…and not being broken out with bleeds/dots quite clearly still ticking on them.
It’s honestly shocking. Lol. Especially if you consider rogues largely revolve around opening from stealth with 100% crit to kill things right now. It’s so important you’ll see rogues all-in vanishing to secure the burst damage necessary for kills. Like who thought virtually guaranteeing access to the strongest, most frequent, no CD guaranteed crit mechanic in the game was a good idea?
Cold blood used to give rogues 100% crit on their next ability. Just one ability. It had a 3 minute cooldown. Lol. Rogues just restealth and get guaranteed 100% crit on their next opening rotation entirely.
I’d be less upset with master assassin if it wasn’t for this conduit.
No. I cant type less then 10 letters, But No. I understand the BS mini game of getting you to pop the trinket with sap/blind so they should be on DR together.
Rogues cant afk in bear form to heal to full, nor do they have word of glory. So yes, that conduit is needed until self healing is nerfed across the board.
And they don’t. Cloaked in Shadows gives them survivability in a way that stays true to the class. Unless you’d like to see vial buffed again or something.
How does this conduit have anything to do with other classes?
It’s a simple handicap for rogues who don’t want to coordinate restealths/resets with their healers.
It’s absurd. You can have the shield when you get OUT of stealth. I don’t mind if rogues had the shield after they’ve been broken out of stealth…that’s fine.
The problem is that rogues get a FREE RESET every time because they get a shield THE MOMENT they stealth so all counterplay (Dots/bleeds) are rendered useless.
Its necessary with how bursty the game is we have no healing, ferals can sit bear or they even have a conduit that proc healing for them even in stuns and paladins can wog back to full like come on now when hybrid healing nerfed I have no problem admitting its bad bur for now you need a priest with mind games to kill a druid or paladin or any hybrid or they are impossible to die
Crimson vial is 20% heal on 4 second so its not rally reliable and recuperator does like 6k healing the enitre match its nothing its bad because we play pre med a d pre med procs slice and dice during shadow dance thats during our setups when we are not taking damage but the time we neeed the most its not even working and even if its working it does so little healing
This conduit is absolutely necessary for rogues. I guess I can see your past mindset of “I put moonfire up he should never be able to stealth”, but it CAN’T work that way now. The auto crit legendary is basically what rogue damage is balanced around in pvp. If you’re coming out of stealth with dance and symbols up, you’re doing pretty good damage. In all other scenario’s you’re actually doing 500 dps and your sole reason for existing is stunning a target so a mage can combust and kill it for you. The conduit is necessary to get restealths consistently when you drop combat, which we need to have any impact on a match.
Rogues have the worst damage in the game when not coming out of stealth, and are also the squishiest class in the game right with WW/MW monks. I’d prefer a backstab/shadowstrike damage buff and not be reliant on running trying for restealths 50% of every match so I can actually do damage. Backstab legimately hits for 500, and I’m at 218 rogue. Remove the conduit, but damage outside of stealth opens/dance has to be buffed.
The reason its busted isnt because its a heal rofl, its because it gives you a shield when you enter stealth so you can get restealthes even if you do something extremely wrong like you know stealth when dots had 2-3 seconds left.
Very close to none but also you make it seem like hes lying or something he meant we bad a little bit and you made it seem like we had a lot so I explained why we have very little