Ultimately, someone doesn’t understand the notion of balance.
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Only thing that’s pretty clear for me throughout this post is that you have much issues dealing with pallys and mates.
Also, in the OP you said npcs attacks you when you use vendetta…? Really curious about that one, lol
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Of course he does not think that it’s a troll thread.
Clearly you have no clue how to play rogue, if you believe shadow step is a 2min CD.
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Sure lets play…
frost nova
blink.
All people in that area are frozen AND you are away from all melee and maybe can be hit by a caster…IF you don’t silence them. Next you frost bolt them and they are slowed. But say you wanted to reset…just run. By the time they catch you again you have frost nova and blink up again. So again you get away…EVEN if stunned! Being visible doesn’t make you attackacble and being “stealthed” doesn’t make you unattackable. Next frost nova in the area and pop you are standing there. But you have say a mere 90 more seconds before you can do anything about it?
I’ve played frost mage and in groups they freaking shine.
Oh but say they actually catch you. Ice block. Wait…now blink and frost nova are reset again…blink away.
Pally? Why run when you can “reset the fight” and heal yourself. By then the rogue is 1/2 health and that wonderful ranged 1/2 health remover is used.
Your argument is child like.
Truth is a pally and a mage get to reset the fight over and over while you get 1 and then have to skulk away for 2 minutes.
Why is 30 seconds too short?
Because 30secs is just simply too short. A good opener can ruin someones day. A rogue is already the king of control. If you play your blind, gouge, cheap shot, kidney shot, etc halfway intelligently and have a 30sec vanish on top of that, you can keep someone from attacking you for 3/4 of a fight. Not to mention disarm if you spec for it (which is always smart against someone like a ret pally).
Many times when you cc someone (or if they iceblock as you mentioned) you can get back into stealth from combat dropping. Don’t sit there autoattacking their iceblock like a tard. Get off a restealth and kill them now that they’ve wasted their iceblock.
And if you’re getting knocked out of your vanish/stealth by a frost nova, your positioning is incredibly poor as is your use of cloak/vanish. open a gap, get out of nova range. Gouge and run, land a sap while stealthed, grappling hook away or do whatever you got to do to make sure you’re a safe distance away before using your vanish. These abilities have to be used with a little dash of intellect or you’re just wasting them and not using them to their potential.
Poor play =/= poor design.
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We have said this since Legion about Rogues were pruned to death and there is nothing special about Rogues. Not sure why people still defend the current state of Rogues as CloS and Feint were nerfed heading into BFA as well.
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I believe you are misinterpreting peoples responses… Its not a matter of defending the current state, as much as it is a response to the ludicrous suggestions by OP as to why rogue is bad or how it should be. Also
is probably the best summation of everyone’s response to OP. Yet our arguments are childlike. When in actuality the OP’s previous response just proves they are terrible at playing rogue.
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Nope the respobses are exactly like he says including this one. How do you know the OP is a bad player? What did he say wrong. Facts please. Ad-hominem attack purely.
Poor design does equal poor play BTW. Stuck in combat. Poor play or poor design? I regularly on my rogue have been stealthed and can’t use skills because I’m not stealthed…but I look stealthed…the monsters think I’m stealthed…everyone around me thinks I’m stealthed…but “must be in stealth” is the message when I try to sap somebody etc. Log out. Shut my computer off. Turn it back on…log in…still in stealth but not really.
Is the above poor design or poor play.
You have been served.
Britney does have a point.
If I ever get permission to post videos I’ll show some of poor Rogues out of stealth-in combat and looking so scared and frightened, enemies everywhere, it will bring tears to your eyes.
Oh I see 30 seconds is too short because its too short. Circular reasoning. Look into it. If you are concerned about openers then the timer should be on those not stealth. Stealth by itself is defensive. No reason its can’t be 30 seconds. Thats twice the time as a blink.
Stealth isn’t defensive. That’s what you’re not picking up on here. Being able to reset a fight and open at your discretion is a very powerful tool. You can use stealth abilities during shadow dance, and dancing every 30 seconds is powerful on its own. Imagine if you couldn’t also be seen.
You’re looking at stealth in a vacuum and not considering the other parts of the toolkit.
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How do i know the OP is bad, well for one not posting on the character you are complaining about. And two the fact that you can’t see how strong a 30s vanish would be, means you have no idea how to do an actual opener pvp or pve. Clearly not seeing this means you are missing the fundamentals of being a rogue. These are facts. Please see any logs of a decent rogue to back this.
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This has to be a troll post, Rogues have had at least one spec in the top 10 (if not top 5) since… HFC? This post is quite clearly written by someone who thinks that rogues are impotent because they are impotent when playing rogue.
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