- Cloak of shadows (maybe an alternative version that just clears all dots or clears dots when you vanish rather than just a flat full immunity) so that it isn’t too OP
- Fan of Knives
- Recuperate or Crimson Vial
- Shadow Dance
- Some sort of passive group/raid utility (an example would be giving slice and dice a haste or attack power buff to all party members)
- Maybe another defensive cooldown for tank rogues to mitigate damage OR something that enhances riposte
Tricks of the Trade!
Im just gonna play Cata and get all of that, plus better dungeons/raids
As someone against Cloak, this is a very fair compromised. (unless they keep Spriest busted with these dots. Then I feel bad enough for rogues where I agree give them the immunity but just nerf VP for goodness sake.)
I know it was also suggested just giving vanish a dot remover as well. Either versions of this would be acceptable.
Rogue tanks deserve some love. As long as they match it with a dps rune so we don’t get another Shaman tank being busted in pvp scenario.
I am worried about adding crimson vial with how powerful rogue CC is in classic. If they did test servers would be an interesting one to test.
Would bring balancing issues. imo.
-Make Vanish convert to Cloak of Shadows with a rune
-Fan of Knives finisher would be great for tanking(tanks NEED better aoe)
-Recuperate would be amazing for tanking too
-Also, buff Main Gauche in some way
Recoup and cloak would feel ao good in the damage reduction meta
Problem is we have no counter to rogues vanish other than throwing dots on them so they can’t vanish. Why would you take the 1 counter to the rogue stealth engage burst → vanish and re-engage with CDs. No dots means no counterplay.
I’d take giving them a 90% spell damage reduction but they keep the dots so vanish won’t work.
I really feel like Rogue Tank needs Cheat Death to be viable beyond MC.
Im just gonna play Cata and get all of that
Sure GLHF
Haha ha
You’re serious
Flare will negate it.
Uhh… what? That is pretty poor logic.
AoE is the counter to vanish. You see a vanished rogue, you AoE. AoE is a response which is a proper counter. The only thing that should be both a counter and a prevention of vanish would be flare. Something specialized specifically for stealthed targets.
Having literally every class get free vanish prevention by stacking a bleed/dot/whatever is absurd. Why even have vanish in the game at that point? At that point you may as well just call it shadowdance with one charge because that’s all its good for.
Using such a big CD with a reagent use as only a root break is also absurd. Especially when other classes have free cost abilities that only cost mana and are on a far more generous CD to break out of roots. If all I can ultimately use vanish for is to break roots on then please put it on a 15-30sec CD like all the other root breaks.
Everyone is asking for fan of knives, its the easy and also most boring addition.
I would like poison bomb as our ‘AoE’ rune (make it apply OH poison), targetable ground AoE, make it a finisher move, would make for some cool gameplay than just pressing fan of knives.
Heck even just give us an individual poison bomb for each poison type, let me AoE like the mages and hunters throwing crippling and deadly poison bombs on groups of mobs.